The Segment: A Zero Trust Leadership Podcast

Live from Black Hat 2025: Mapping Cyber Risk & Preparing for an AI-Driven Future


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Recorded live at Black Hat 2025, this episode takes you straight to the frontlines of cybersecurity innovation. 

Host, Raghu Nandakumara first sits down with Bennett Moe, a cartographer turned N2K CyberWire VP, reveals how mapping skills can turn massive data into actionable cyber insights and why fundamentals still matter in an AI-driven world. Then, Jim Reavis, CEO of the Cloud Security Alliance and ISSA Hall of Famer, shares his urgent warning on cloud risks, the impact of generative AI, and why security leaders must rethink old playbooks.

We discussed:

  • How cartography principles help prioritize and visualize cybersecurity data

     
  • The evolution of AI in security and where it’s moving beyond buzzwords

     
  • Why fundamentals like security hygiene and the right people in the right roles are still critical

     
  • Systemic risks in cloud environments and why old security playbooks may no longer suffice

     
  • How security leaders can become their company’s most informed voices on AI

     
  • The importance of actionable insights over overwhelming data for decision-making
  • The role of cloud as a foundation for AI innovations like ChatGPT

     
  • Distinguishing between securing AI and defending against AI-powered attacks

     
  • How continuous learning, communication, and community collaboration are essential in cybersecurity

     
  • The CSA’s mission and legacy as a navigator for the cybersecurity community

 

 

Stay Connected with our host, Raghu on LinkedIn

For more information about Illumio, check out our website at illumio.com 

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