The Segment

By Illumio

Attackers are smarter, more sophisticated and move more quickly than ever. If your organization hasn’t been breached yet, odds are you will be. On The Segment, you will hear from industry experts abou... more

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June 17, 2026The Cybersecurity Cliff Nobody Is Talking About | Jen Ellis
In this episode, Raghu Nandakumara sits down with Jen Ellis, founder of NextJenSecurity, for a sharp and wide-ranging conversation about why so many of cybersecurity's biggest debates keep missing the point.
Just weeks after a major AI breakthrough sent shockwaves through the security industry, Jen brings her trademark candour to the questions everyone is asking: from the real mechanics of ransomware economics to a frank assessment of why the industry's approach to resilience may be fundamentally miscalibrated.
The conversation explores what it actually means to defend in an era where vulnerability discovery is accelerating faster than vendors can patch, end users can respond, and policymakers can keep up. Jen argues that while the threat landscape has never been more urgent, the assumptions underpinning most proposed solutions, from payment bans to AI-powered fixes, are more naive than the industry wants to admit.
Raghu and Jen discuss:
Why banning ransom payments won't end ransomware — and what a responsible policy glide path might actually look like

How ransomware targeting really works, and why the "cut off the revenue stream" argument misreads the threat

Why the vendor response piece of the AI vulnerability pipeline is being dangerously overlooked

The legacy technology time bomb — and why developed economies are most exposed

Why being trusted and being trustworthy are not the same thing

What cyber insurance gets right, and why it isn't ready to save us yet

Why there are no five-step fixes — and why pretending otherwise is part of the problem

How the current moment of political and regulatory urgency may be the industry's best chance to act
The episode closes with a dose of honest pragmatism: there are no five-step fixes, nothing is actually simple, and the attack surface is expanding faster than most organizations are moving. But there is real momentum — more policymakers, more collaboration, more urgency than the industry has ever seen. The question is whether we'll use it.

Stay connected with our host Raghu on LinkedIn
For more information about Illumio, check out our website at illumio.com
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47min
June 15, 2026The Monday Microsegment for the week of 6/15/2026
The Monday Microsegment for the week of June 15. All the cybersecurity news you need to stay ahead, from Illumio's The Segment podcast.
Patch me if you can. Microsoft releases its biggest Patch Tuesday in years.

Meta says "I spy" to spyware firm NSO Group lurking in WhatsApp.

And Chinese hackers are putting AI to use.

Plus, Gary Barlet joins us to discuss why AI is exposing a cybersecurity reality government agencies can no longer ignore.
Head to The Zero Trust Hub: hub.illumio.com
Get the Industry’s First Vendor-Neutral Zero Trust Certification: https://www.illumio.com/zero-trust-certification
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7min
June 08, 2026The Monday Microsegment for the week of 6/8/2026
The Monday Microsegment for the week of June 8. All the cybersecurity news you need to stay ahead, from Illumio's The Segment podcast.
The White House puts AI security to the test.

Passwords lose their starring role in cyberattacks.

And IronWorm wriggles its way into npm packages.

Plus, Aishwarya Ramani joins us to break down the takeaways from this year’s Verizon DBIR.
Head to The Zero Trust Hub: hub.illumio.com
Get the Industry’s First Vendor-Neutral Zero Trust Certification: https://www.illumio.com/zero-trust-certification
2026 Verizon DBIR: https://www.verizon.com/business/resources/reports/dbir/
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7min
June 03, 2026Same Problems, Different Decade | Dr. Anton Chuvakin and Erik Bloch
In this episode, Raghu Nandakumara sits down with two heavyweights in cybersecurity: Dr. Anton Chuvakin (Google Cloud) and Erik Bloch (Illumio), for a candid, often funny, and occasionally sobering look at why detection and response keeps fighting the same battles it was fighting 20 years ago.
From the birth of SIEM and the coining of "EDR," to the short-lived reign of XDR, to today's AI hype cycle, Anton and Erik trace the full arc of the industry's evolution and interrogate why, despite decades of tooling investment, the fundamental outcomes haven't changed.
Alert fatigue, signal-to-noise ratios, and the needle-in-the-haystack problem remain as stubborn as ever –and the slides security teams are building in 2025 look suspiciously like the ones from 2003.
Raghu, Anton, and Erik discuss:
Why the SOC still largely runs on a 1990s operating model and what it would actually take to change that

How compliance pulled SIEM away from detection for over a decade and why that hangover still lingers

Why a handful of engineering-led organizations (Google, Netflix, a European bank) have cracked the code while nearly everyone else keeps applying band-aids

The pharmaceutical industry analogy that explains why security startups keep building band-aids instead of solving root causes

What MDRs are doing right and why enterprise SOCs have no incentive to learn from them

Why AI is accelerating tooling but, for some organizations, actually slowing down the harder transformation work

How securing AI is repeating the exact same mistakes made in the early days of cloud
Stay connected with our host Raghu on LinkedIn
For more information about Illumio, check out our website at illumio.com
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55min
June 01, 2026The Monday Microsegment for the week of 6/1/2026
The Monday Microsegment for the week of June 1. All the cybersecurity news you need to stay ahead, from Illumio's The Segment podcast.
Iran’s MuddyWater group steps up espionage efforts — without making a splash

A botnet built to hunt software developers has been taken offline.

And nearly six million cruise ship passengers' data just went overboard.

Plus, Aishwarya Ramani joins us to break down the takeaways from this year’s Verizon DBIR.
Head to The Zero Trust Hub: hub.illumio.com
Get the Industry’s First Vendor-Neutral Zero Trust Certification: https://www.illumio.com/zero-trust-certification
2026 Verizon DBIR: https://www.verizon.com/business/resources/reports/dbir/
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8min
May 26, 2026The Monday Microsegment for the week of 5/25/2026
The Monday Microsegment for the week of May 25. All the cybersecurity news you need to stay ahead, from Illumio's The Segment podcast.
One compromised dev tool, 3800 stolen GitHub repos.

Mythos is finding software bugs faster than humans can patch them.

And the White House shelves a planned executive order on frontier AI models.

Plus, hear what Christer Swartz declares as May's boo and bravo!
Head to The Zero Trust Hub: hub.illumio.com
Get the Industry’s First Vendor-Neutral Zero Trust Certification: https://www.illumio.com/zero-trust-certification
2026 Verizon DBIR: https://www.verizon.com/business/resources/reports/dbir/
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7min
May 20, 2026Cybersecurity Has Hit a Brick Wall — Andrew Rubin on What Comes Next
In this episode, Raghu Nandakumara sits down with Andrew Rubin, Founder & CEO of Illumio, for a candid conversation about the next phase of AI-driven cybersecurity risk.
Just weeks after a major AI breakthrough sparked shockwaves across the security industry, Andrew shares his immediate reaction — from the sobering implications of machine-speed vulnerability discovery to a frank assessment of why the cybersecurity industry's fundamental model may already be broken.
The conversation explores what actually changes in an era where vulnerabilities could be discovered and exploited faster than any human-driven operation could manage. Andrew argues that while segmentation as a concept is decades old, its role as a critical backstop has never been more urgent. If attackers begin operating at machine speed, defenders must rethink not just their tools, but their entire operating model — from how they assess risk to how quickly they can respond.
Raghu and Andrew discuss:
Why the cybersecurity industry has spent more every year while outcomes have gotten worse

How AI creates an asymmetric threat unlike anything defenders have faced before

Why patching alone won't solve the problem — and the COVID vaccine analogy that explains why

The shift from prevention to resilience as the new security north star

What the SolarWinds story reveals about how organizations miscalculate tail risk

Why segmentation becomes one of the few reliable backstops in a model-driven world

How the era of 12-month RFPs and POCs may be coming to a swift and necessary end
Stay Connected with our host, Raghu on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raghunandakumara/
For more information about Illumio, check out our website at illumio.com

Resources Mentioned:
Hard Truths in Cybersecurity: Fear, Liability, and the Industry's Biggest Lies | RSAC 2026 Panel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88XjfZBYIw0
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49min
May 18, 2026The Monday Microsegment for the week of 5/18/2026
The Monday Microsegment for the week of May 18. All the cybersecurity news you need to stay ahead, from Illumio's The Segment podcast.
Schools get their data back — but on what terms?

Google catches the first AI-built cyber exploit in the wild.

And lawmakers press Homeland Security to get ready for AI attacks — and fast.
And Trevor Dearing joins us on Ask the Expert.
Head to The Zero Trust Hub: hub.illumio.com
Get the Industry’s First Vendor-Neutral Zero Trust Certification: https://www.illumio.com/zero-trust-certification
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8min
May 12, 2026The Monday Microsegment for the week of 5/11/2026
The Monday Microsegment for the week of May 11. All the cybersecurity news you need to stay ahead, from Illumio's The Segment podcast.
School’s out, but not for summer. Hackers shut down finals week for thousands of universities.

An AI model found the most valuable target on a breached network. No one asked it to.

A nine-year-old Linux flaw now has a public exploit — and no patch.
And Erik Bloch joins us on Ask the Expert.
Head to The Zero Trust Hub: hub.illumio.com
Get the Industry’s First Vendor-Neutral Zero Trust Certification: https://www.illumio.com/zero-trust-certification
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8min
May 06, 2026AI Just Raised the Stakes in Cybersecurity—Now What? | Neil Robinson
In this episode, Raghu Nandakumara sits down with Neil Robinson for a candid look at how one of the industry’s top security leaders is thinking about the next phase of AI-driven cybersecurity risk.
Just weeks after a major AI breakthrough sparked shockwaves across the security industry, Neil shares his immediate reaction — from genuine excitement about the technology’s progress to the sobering implications for defenders, attackers, and the pace of cyber risk.
The conversation explores what actually changes in an era where vulnerabilities could be discovered and exploited faster than ever before. Neil argues that while the technology may be new, the core mission remains the same: disciplined execution, strong fundamentals, and protecting customers. But if attackers begin operating at machine speed, defenders must rethink how quickly they can respond.
Raghu and Neil discuss:
Why this moment feels different from previous technology shifts

How AI may increase the likelihood and speed of exploitation

Why security fundamentals matter more, not less, in the AI era

The tension between faster development cycles and safe delivery

What CISOs are prioritizing right now around risk, resilience, and readiness

Why “reacting at machine speed” may become the new benchmark for defenders
Throughout the episode, Neil brings a calm, practical perspective: yes, the road ahead may be uneven — but organizations that stay focused, modernize operations, and embrace the right tools can emerge stronger and more secure.

Stay Connected with our host, Raghu on LinkedIn
For more information about Illumio, check out our website at illumio.com
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34min

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