The Segment

The Segment

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The Segment episodes

  • The Monday Microsegment for the week of 7/20/2026

    The Monday Microsegment for the week of July 20. All the cybersecurity news you need to stay ahead, from Illumio's The Segment podcast.

    • Washington sets up an AI-powered clearinghouse to catalog software vulnerabilities.
    • Microsoft breaks its own patching record. Yes, the one it set just four weeks ago.
    • Got milk? Maybe not, after a ransomware attack hits a U.S. dairy production system.
    • Plus, Gary Barlet joins to explain why resilience—not prevention—should be the new measure of cybersecurity success.

      Head to The Zero Trust Hub: hub.illumio.com

      Get the Industry’s First Vendor-Neutral Zero Trust Certification: https://www.illumio.com/zero-trust-certification 

      7 min
    • AI Doesn't Break Security. It Exposes It. | Jason Garbis

      Most security breakthroughs don't come from new technology, they come from finally getting the basics right. As AI accelerates both attacks and the pace of vulnerability disclosure, the organizations that fare best aren't the ones chasing the next big thing, but the ones with the visibility, governance, and segmentation to absorb the shock.

      In this episode, Raghu Nandakumara sits down with Jason Garbis, founder and CEO of Number Line Security and co-chair of the Zero Trust Working Group at the Cloud Security Alliance, to explore what Zero Trust looks like when threats evolve at machine speed.

      Jason draws on his path from early software-defined perimeter work to leading Zero Trust strategy at the Cloud Security Alliance, sharing why "right-sizing" a Zero Trust initiative matters more than chasing sweeping transformation, and why even a well-built security capability fails without genuine buy-in from the business. 

      The conversation then turns to AI's effect on the threat landscape: the surge of vulnerabilities and patches enterprises now have to absorb, the widening gap between attacker speed and defender response, and why segmentation remains one of the most effective ways to shrink the blast radius of an attack.

      Raghu and Jason discuss:

      • How to right-size a Zero Trust initiative for an organization's actual readiness
      • Why "build it and they will come" doesn't work for security adoption
      • Tying Zero Trust investments to business priorities like AI adoption, M&A, and compliance
      • What's genuinely new — and what isn't — about securing AI systems and agents
      • How accelerating vulnerability disclosures are reshaping patch management
      • Why segmentation reduces blast radius even when patching can't keep pace
      • A simple analogy for explaining zero trust to non-security stakeholders
      • Jason closes with his go-to way of explaining Zero Trust to non-technical stakeholders: an analogy involving brakes, oil, and seat belts that reframes security as a shared responsibility rather than a roadblock.

        Resources Mentioned:

        Zero Trust Security and Enterprise Guide

         

        Stay connected with our host Raghu on LinkedIn

        For more information about Illumio, check out our website at illumio.com

        46 min
      • The Monday Microsegment for the week of 7/13/2026

        The Monday Microsegment for the week of July 13. All the cybersecurity news you need to stay ahead, from Illumio's The Segment podcast.

        • Progress Software warns customers about a mysterious new threat.
        • The first rule of hiring ransomware negotiators — make sure they’re not working for the other side.
        • And Brussels warns that patching alone can't keep pace with AI attacks.
        • Plus, John Kindervag joins us for a Book Club segment. 

          Head to The Zero Trust Hub: hub.illumio.com

          Get the Industry’s First Vendor-Neutral Zero Trust Certification: https://www.illumio.com/zero-trust-certification 

          8 min
        • The Monday Microsegment for the week of 7/6/2026

          The Monday Microsegment for the week of July 6. All the cybersecurity news you need to stay ahead, from Illumio's The Segment podcast.

          • Hackers break into a network tailor-made for sharing World Cup and other security plans.
          • Ransomware just married AI in the first known completely autonomous ransomware attack.
          • And from Brussels to Travis County, spyware watchers just got a wake-up call.
          • Plus, Trupti Shiralkar joins to discuss how AI is reshaping software security.

            Head to The Zero Trust Hub: hub.illumio.com

            Get the Industry’s First Vendor-Neutral Zero Trust Certification: https://www.illumio.com/zero-trust-certification 

            8 min
          • The Monday Microsegment for the week of 6/29/2026

            The Monday Microsegment for the week of June 29. All the cybersecurity news you need to stay ahead, from Illumio's The Segment podcast.

            • Officials warn about frontier AI as a Chinese model closes the gap with Mythos.
            • Icarus burns a dozen security firms, thanks to an old password. 
            • And ShinyHunters goes back to school in another attack against the education sector.
            • Plus, Christer Swartz joins us for June's Boos and Bravos. 

              Head to The Zero Trust Hub: hub.illumio.com

              Get the Industry’s First Vendor-Neutral Zero Trust Certification: https://www.illumio.com/zero-trust-certification 

              8 min
            • The Monday Microsegment for the week of 6/22/2026

              The Monday Microsegment for the week of June 22. All the cybersecurity news you need to stay ahead, from Illumio's The Segment podcast.

              • A stolen password list leaves thousands of Fortinet firewalls wide open.
              • Researchers crack Apple's A12 and A13 chips with an exploit no update can fix.
              • And is the freeze on Anthropic's most powerful AI models starting to thaw?
              • Plus, Trevor Dearing explains why organizations can't outsource risk. 

                Head to The Zero Trust Hub: hub.illumio.com

                Get the Industry’s First Vendor-Neutral Zero Trust Certification: https://www.illumio.com/zero-trust-certification 

                7 min
              • The Cybersecurity Cliff Nobody Is Talking About | Jen Ellis

                In this episode, Raghu Nandakumara sits down with Jen Ellis, founder of NextJenSecurity, for a sharp and wide-ranging conversation about why so many of cybersecurity's biggest debates keep missing the point.

                Just weeks after a major AI breakthrough sent shockwaves through the security industry, Jen brings her trademark candour to the questions everyone is asking: from the real mechanics of ransomware economics to a frank assessment of why the industry's approach to resilience may be fundamentally miscalibrated.

                The conversation explores what it actually means to defend in an era where vulnerability discovery is accelerating faster than vendors can patch, end users can respond, and policymakers can keep up. Jen argues that while the threat landscape has never been more urgent, the assumptions underpinning most proposed solutions,  from payment bans to AI-powered fixes, are more naive than the industry wants to admit.

                Raghu and Jen discuss:

                • Why banning ransom payments won't end ransomware — and what a responsible policy glide path might actually look like
                • How ransomware targeting really works, and why the "cut off the revenue stream" argument misreads the threat
                • Why the vendor response piece of the AI vulnerability pipeline is being dangerously overlooked
                • The legacy technology time bomb — and why developed economies are most exposed
                • Why being trusted and being trustworthy are not the same thing
                • What cyber insurance gets right, and why it isn't ready to save us yet
                • Why there are no five-step fixes — and why pretending otherwise is part of the problem
                • How the current moment of political and regulatory urgency may be the industry's best chance to act
                • The episode closes with a dose of honest pragmatism: there are no five-step fixes, nothing is actually simple, and the attack surface is expanding faster than most organizations are moving. But there is real momentum — more policymakers, more collaboration, more urgency than the industry has ever seen. The question is whether we'll use it.

                   

                  Stay connected with our host Raghu on LinkedIn

                  For more information about Illumio, check out our website at illumio.com

                  47 min
                • The Monday Microsegment for the week of 6/15/2026

                  The Monday Microsegment for the week of June 15. All the cybersecurity news you need to stay ahead, from Illumio's The Segment podcast.

                  • Patch me if you can. Microsoft releases its biggest Patch Tuesday in years.
                  • Meta says "I spy" to spyware firm NSO Group lurking in WhatsApp.
                  • And Chinese hackers are putting AI to use. 

                  • Plus, Gary Barlet joins us to discuss why AI is exposing a cybersecurity reality government agencies can no longer ignore.

                    Head to The Zero Trust Hub: hub.illumio.com

                    Get the Industry’s First Vendor-Neutral Zero Trust Certification: https://www.illumio.com/zero-trust-certification 

                    7 min
                  • The Monday Microsegment for the week of 6/8/2026

                    The Monday Microsegment for the week of June 8. All the cybersecurity news you need to stay ahead, from Illumio's The Segment podcast.

                    • The White House puts AI security to the test.
                    • Passwords lose their starring role in cyberattacks.
                    • And IronWorm wriggles its way into npm packages.

                    • Plus, Aishwarya Ramani joins us to break down the takeaways from this year’s Verizon DBIR. 

                      Head to The Zero Trust Hub: hub.illumio.com

                      Get the Industry’s First Vendor-Neutral Zero Trust Certification: https://www.illumio.com/zero-trust-certification 

                      2026 Verizon DBIR: https://www.verizon.com/business/resources/reports/dbir/

                      7 min
                    • Same Problems, Different Decade | Dr. Anton Chuvakin and Erik Bloch

                      In this episode, Raghu Nandakumara sits down with two heavyweights in cybersecurity: Dr. Anton Chuvakin (Google Cloud) and Erik Bloch (Illumio), for a candid, often funny, and occasionally sobering look at why detection and response keeps fighting the same battles it was fighting 20 years ago.

                      From the birth of SIEM and the coining of "EDR," to the short-lived reign of XDR, to today's AI hype cycle, Anton and Erik trace the full arc of the industry's evolution and interrogate why, despite decades of tooling investment, the fundamental outcomes haven't changed. 

                      Alert fatigue, signal-to-noise ratios, and the needle-in-the-haystack problem remain as stubborn as ever –and the slides security teams are building in 2025 look suspiciously like the ones from 2003.

                      Raghu, Anton, and Erik discuss:

                      • Why the SOC still largely runs on a 1990s operating model and what it would actually take to change that
                      • How compliance pulled SIEM away from detection for over a decade and why that hangover still lingers
                      • Why a handful of engineering-led organizations (Google, Netflix, a European bank) have cracked the code while nearly everyone else keeps applying band-aids
                      • The pharmaceutical industry analogy that explains why security startups keep building band-aids instead of solving root causes
                      • What MDRs are doing right and why enterprise SOCs have no incentive to learn from them
                      • Why AI is accelerating tooling but, for some organizations, actually slowing down the harder transformation work
                      • How securing AI is repeating the exact same mistakes made in the early days of cloud
                      • Stay connected with our host Raghu on LinkedIn

                        For more information about Illumio, check out our website at illumio.com

                        55 min

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