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Live from DisruptED with Phil Hill and Charlie Rose
In this bonus episode recorded live at the Collegis Education DisruptED summit in Phoenix, we spoke with Phil Hill and Charlie Rose about the rapidly shifting higher education policy landscape and its implications for institutions. They unpack how recent federal actions—particularly new legislation and accelerated rulemaking—are creating both urgency and uncertainty, while also signaling a longer-term shift toward accountability, affordability, and measurable student outcomes.
The conversation highlights that while the current moment may feel chaotic, many of these changes are driving necessary conversations about return on investment, institutional value, and alignment with workforce needs. Ultimately, it’s a call for leaders to stay adaptable, focus on long-term structural shifts rather than short-term noise, and continue innovating in ways that best serve students.
Guest Names:
Phil Hill - Lead at Phil Hill & Associates
Charlie Rose - Education and Regulatory Partner at Hogan Marren Babbo & Rose
Guest Socials:
Phil's LinkedIn
Charlie's LinkedIn
Guest Bios:
Phil Hill is publisher of the On EdTech blog and lead at Phil Hill & Associates. As a market analyst, Phil has analyzed the growth of technology-enabled change for educational institutions, uncovering and describing the major trends and implications for the broader market. His unique graphics and visual presentations have been widely used in the industry. As an independent consultant, Phil helps educational institutions, technology and content vendors, and policy makers as they consider and implement new initiatives.
Charlie Rose is a shareholder at Hogan Marren Babbo & Rose, Ltd., and co-chair of the firm’s education practice. Charlie is also the former General Counsel at the U.S. Department of Education. With more than 37 years of experience, Mr. Rose has an established national law practice in the areas of Education Law and Policy, Government & Regulatory Affairs, Corporate Transactions, Civil Rights and Labor & Employment.
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Connect With Our Host:
Dustin Ramsdell
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dustinramsdell/
About The Enrollify Podcast Network:
The Higher Ed Geek is a part of the Enrollify Podcast Network. If you like this podcast, chances are you’ll like other Enrollify shows too!
Enrollify is made possible by Element451 — The AI Workforce Platform for Higher Ed. Learn more at element451.com.
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In this bonus episode recorded live at the Collegis Education DisruptED summit in Phoenix, we spoke with Phil Hill and Charlie Rose about the rapidly shifting higher education policy landscape and its implications for institutions. They unpack how recent federal actions—particularly new legislation and accelerated rulemaking—are creating both urgency and uncertainty, while also signaling a longer-term shift toward accountability, affordability, and measurable student outcomes.
The conversation highlights that while the current moment may feel chaotic, many of these changes are driving necessary conversations about return on investment, institutional value, and alignment with workforce needs. Ultimately, it’s a call for leaders to stay adaptable, focus on long-term structural shifts rather than short-term noise, and continue innovating in ways that best serve students.
Guest Names:
Phil Hill - Lead at Phil Hill & Associates
Charlie Rose - Education and Regulatory Partner at Hogan Marren Babbo & Rose
Guest Socials:
Phil's LinkedIn
Charlie's LinkedIn
Guest Bios:
Phil Hill is publisher of the On EdTech blog and lead at Phil Hill & Associates. As a market analyst, Phil has analyzed the growth of technology-enabled change for educational institutions, uncovering and describing the major trends and implications for the broader market. His unique graphics and visual presentations have been widely used in the industry. As an independent consultant, Phil helps educational institutions, technology and content vendors, and policy makers as they consider and implement new initiatives.
Charlie Rose is a shareholder at Hogan Marren Babbo & Rose, Ltd., and co-chair of the firm’s education practice. Charlie is also the former General Counsel at the U.S. Department of Education. With more than 37 years of experience, Mr. Rose has an established national law practice in the areas of Education Law and Policy, Government & Regulatory Affairs, Corporate Transactions, Civil Rights and Labor & Employment.
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Connect With Our Host:
Dustin Ramsdell
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dustinramsdell/
About The Enrollify Podcast Network:
The Higher Ed Geek is a part of the Enrollify Podcast Network. If you like this podcast, chances are you’ll like other Enrollify shows too!
Enrollify is made possible by Element451 — The AI Workforce Platform for Higher Ed. Learn more at element451.com.
Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.