This week the podcast is transformed into the Secret Life of Lasagna, as philanthropist, immigration activist and the Second Lady of Pennsylvania, Gisele Fetterman joins us and we bake up lasagna for the nationwide kindness movement called Lasagna Love. As her husband Pennyslvania Lieutenant Governor John Fetterman prepares to run for Senate, we talk about how she copes with the nastiness that can come with being in the public eye,  and how her early life as an undocumented immigrant in this country informs her work as a philanthropist. This was a very special episode for me. Giselle may not be a household name everywhere, but she should be, and no doubt soon will be. The way she leads by example is inspiring. Plus: She explains how we can all be “nebby for good.”

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