Pastor Mike and Jonathan discuss an overlooked area to focus on to know God more. 

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Pastor Mike and Jonathan speak with Pastor Jerome Gay about the d-word - deconstruction.  The conversation covers Pastor Jerome's new book on church hurt, deconstruction, holding churches accountable, and helping hurt people heal. 

Pastor Mike and Jonathan speak with Pastor Jerome Gay about slavery, the Bible, whitewashing, and Christianity.

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Pastor Mike and Jonathan talk about if Christians should celebrate major holidays. 

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Pastor Mike and Jonathan discuss drifting in the Christian life and what to do about it.

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Pastor Mike and Jonathan talk about being seasoned with salt when interacting with outsiders. 

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Pastor Mike and Jonathan talk about engaging God daily in spiritual rhythms.

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Pastor Mike and Jonathan answer a question about loving people we may not like or get along with naturally. 

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Pastor Mike and Jonathan answer a listener's question about church hurt and religious trauma. 

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Pastor Mike and Jonathan talk about Christianity being simpler than you ever thought. 

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