On this Episode of Everyday Conversations on Race, I'm joined by my very close friend and colleague, Dr. Joel Brown. Joel is an international known organizational and leadership development consultant. He is a spoken word poet, and a thought leader in Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging. The president and founder of Pneumos, Joel is known as the cultivator.

Key Topics:

• Messages he received as a young Black man growing up in Milwaukee
• Avoid the police who would shoot first and ask questions later
• How to talk to the police if he ever go stopped so he wouldn't be shot or put in jail
• Be grateful that to go to a school with white kids
• Because of racism, he would have to work twice as hard as white people
• These warnings and lessons have stayed with him all of these years
• What it was like to have to have relatives in law enforcement and the difficulties they had to endure
• How Joel learned about the racism and toxic masculinity of "blue culture" from his relatives in law enforcement
• The many times and different cities he has been stopped by police just living or driving while black
• The real problem with the phrase "all lives matter"
• The fact that Black people are traumatized, hurting and exhausted but he is encouraged by the fact that so many white and other non-Black people of color are outraged, marching and speaking out
• Why he thinks that the phrase "Defund the Police" should be changed to "Reallocate funds" and that it would be more effective in getting the same results
• And what's up with Antifa

Contact info for Joel Brown:

[email protected]

www.souletry.com

www.Pneumos.com

Twitter: JoelBrown7

IG: JoelABrown