When you hear “Sound of Silence” by Simon & Garfunkel, some of you picture young Dustin Hoffman with a thousand-yard stare. Some songs that weren’t written for the movies wind up inextricably linked to a film, and that changes how people remember both.

Nate Patrin knows a lot about the ties between songs like the “Sound of Silence” and movies like “The Graduate.” Patrin is a music writer based in St. Paul. He’s the author of a new book, “The Needle and the Lens: Pop Goes to the Movies from Rock n’ Roll to Synthwave.” He joined MPR News Host Cathy Wurzer.

Nate Patrin will have a book launch and conversation at Moon Palace Books, Thursday, Nov. 30.

Use the audio player above to listen to the full conversation.

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