The Athletic's Ben Standig is talking with guests Logan Paulsen and Fred Smoot about the William Jackson trade, an alternate Kirk Cousins universe and all things Commanders. Ben opens the show with the details of Jackson's trade to Pittsburgh before welcoming Logan. They spoke pre-trade on how the offense is different with Taylor Heinicke starting, common rationale with the Jackson and Wentz acquisitions, and what would have happened if Cousins stayed (9:32). Then Fred enters for candid thoughts on why Jackson busted with Washington, the secondary, and why Cousins is "The Wolf of Wall Street" (42:10).

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