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From The Logopraxis Workbook - Spiritual Literacy

Thinking spiritually, or practising spiritual literacy skills, underpins all of our Logopraxis work, and relies on the tools detailed throughout the Workbook, particularly in Step 3, How to Meet and the Appendix. It refers to the ability to ‘read ’what presents into our conscious awareness, in the light of what the Word teaches is true. In cultivating these skills, we seek to observe the spiritual principles within the literal meaning of the Text, and from these to then recognise states of thought or feeling that arise in us while engaging with the Word, or while people in our Life Group share their experience with the Word.

Our day-to-day activities and relationships are the field in which our inner reactions and responses can be observed, and seen to illustrate what the Word teaches regarding the nature of self and the nature of the Divine, of the Lord. Natural or material thinking is dominated by worldly concerns that involve people (including ourselves), places, events, memories of the past, or projections regarding the future - and in general terms, this mode of thought functions from the belief that what the senses perceive are ‘real ’things. Spiritual thinking is not concerned with that but rather is focused on those things that belong to our states of mind: the relations of goods and truths, thoughts and affections, motivations and intentions, beliefs and attitudes, shunning evils and falsities, and the activity of the hellish proprium and the hells versus what is of the Lord and heaven.

So, the practise of spiritual literacy skills involves working to remove the natural material world elements of person, place, time, and space from the content of what we are reading or listening to, and to hold the intention to see how what’s being offered might be framed in a way that captures the universal aspects of spiritual process. This divided attention of observing both internal and external states while engaging with the Word is a valuable tool in stilling the mind and helps us to be consciously present to what arises both in ourselves and in our Life Group. When universal aspects are shared, others are then more easily able to resonate with them in relation to their own work with the Word, and to see how it is true for the processes they personally experience. When this is seen, it more fully supports the Lord’s end - which is the regeneration of the human mind. In this way, the good of the Word as the Lord is made more visible in our midst.

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Divine Providence 177. It is the continual operation of the Divine Providence of the Lord to withdraw man from evils. If anyone were to perceive and feel this continual operation, and yet were not led as one bound, would he not continually struggle against it, and thus either dispute with God or mingle self with the Divine Providence? If he did the latter he would make himself also God; if the former he would release himself from restraint and deny God. It is very evident that there would then be two powers continually acting against each other, the power of evil from man and the power of good from the Lord; and when two opposites act against each other then either one conquers or both perish. In this case if one conquers they both perish; for the evil that belongs to man does not receive good from the Lord in a moment, nor does good from the Lord cast out the evil from man in a moment; for if either were done in a moment no life would be left to man. These and many other harmful results would follow if man were manifestly to perceive or feel the operation of the Divine Providence. 

Conjugial Love 447. III. THAT FORNICATION BELONGS TO THE NATURAL MAN in like manner as does love of the sex which, if it becomes active before marriage, is called fornication. Every man is born corporeal, becomes sensual, then natural, and successively rational, and if he does not stop there, he becomes spiritual. The reason why his progress is such, is that planes may be formed upon Which higher planes may rest as a palace on its foundations. The ultimate plane with its superstructure may also be likened to a ground in which, when prepared, noble seeds are planted.

[2] As specifically regards love of the sex, it also is first corporeal, for it commences from the flesh. It then becomes sensual, for from its general [delight] the five senses are delighted. After that it becomes natural, like the same love with animals, being a roaming love of the sex. But because man was born that he may become spiritual, it later becomes natural-rational, and from natural-rational, spiritual, and at last spiritual-natural. Then that love, now become spiritual, inflows into and actuates the rational love and through this the sensual love, and finally through this the love in the body and the flesh; and this being its ultimate plane, it acts into it spiritually and at the same time rationally and sensually. It inflows and acts successively in this way when man is in meditation upon it, but simultaneously when he is in the ultimate.

[3] That fornication belongs to the natural man is because it proceeds proximately from the natural love of the sex, and while this love may be natural-rational, it is not spiritual. Love of the sex cannot become spiritual until it becomes conjugial, and from being natural it becomes spiritual when man recedes from roaming lust and devotes himself to one, to whose soul he unites his own soul.

Arcana Coelestia 7442 [2] How it is that the interiors also of the natural mind shall be taken possession of by the falsities of evil which are in the outermost parts of this mind, must be briefly told. The things that flow in with man through heaven from the Lord, flow into his interiors, and advance down to the ultimates or outermost parts, and there they are presented to man in a sensible form, consequently they flow down into the sensuous, and through this into the things of the body. If the sensuous has been filled with phantasies from fallacies and appearances, and especially if it has been filled with phantasies from falsities, then the truths which flow in are there turned into similar things, for they are received there according to the form that is induced on them (see n. 7343). Insofar also as truths are turned into falsities, so far the interiors through which they pass are closed, and at last there is no opening beyond that which is necessary for a sufficient transflux to confer the faculty of reasoning, and of confirming evils by means of falsities.

[3] Such being the case with man, it must needs be that while he is being regenerated his natural must be regenerated down to the sensuous; for unless this is regenerated, there is no reception of truth and good, because, as before said, the inflowing truth is there perverted, and then the interiors are closed. And therefore when the exteriors have been regenerated, the whole man has been regenerated, as was signified by the Lord’s words to Peter when He washed his feet:

Simon Peter said unto Him, Lord, wash Thou not my feet only, but also my hands and my head. Jesus said to him, He that hath been bathed needeth not save to have his feet washed, and is clean every whit (John 13:9-10)by the “feet” are signified natural things (n. 2162, 3761, 3986, 4280, 4938-4952); by “washing” is signified purifying (n. 3147, 5954); by “hands” are signified the interiors of the natural; and by the “head” spiritual things; hence is plain what is meant by “him that hath been bathed needing only to have his feet washed, and being clean every whit,” namely, that a man has already been regenerated when he has been regenerated also in respect to the exteriors that belong to the natural. When therefore man has been regenerated also in respect to the natural, then all things therein have been made subordinate to the more interior things; and when these flow in there, they flow as into their generals, by which they present themselves to man in a sensible form. When this is the case with a man, he sensibly feels the affection of the truth that is of faith, and the affection of the good that is of charity.

[4] But the sensuous itself, which is the ultimate of the natural, can with difficulty be regenerated, because it has been filled with material ideas from things earthly, bodily, and worldly. Therefore the man who is being regenerated, especially at this day, is not regenerated as to the sensuous, but as to the natural which is next above the sensuous, to which he is elevated by the Lord from the sensuous, when he is thinking about the truths and goods of faith. The man who is being regenerated by the Lord is endowed with the capacity of elevation from the sensuous. 

Conjugial Love 442. XVI. THAT THE ENJOYMENTS OF SCORTATORY LOVE ARE THE PLEASURES OF INSANITY, BUT THE ENJOYMENTS OF CONJUGIAL LOVE ARE THE DELIGHTS OF WISDOM. That the enjoyments of scortatory love are the pleasures of insanity is because no others are in that love but natural men, and in spiritual things the natural man, being against them, is insane. Therefore he embraces only natural, sensual, and corporeal enjoyments. It is said that he embraces natural, sensual, and corporeal enjoyments because the natural is distinguished into three degrees.

Natural men in the highest degree are those who from rational sight see the insanities and yet are carried away by the enjoyments thereof, as boats by the current of a stream.

Natural men in a lower degree are those who see and judge only from the senses of the body, spurn things rational as being contrary to appearances and fallacies, and reject them as worthless trifles.

Natural men in the lowest degree are those who, being without judgment, are carried away by the alluring heats of their body. The latter are called corporeal-natural, the former sensual-natural, and the first natural. With them are also the same degrees of scortatory love and of its insanities and pleasures.

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7536 Verses 13-18. And Jehovah said unto Moses, Rise up early in the morning, and stand before Pharaoh, and say unto him, Thus said Jehovah the God of the Hebrews, Let My people go, that they may serve Me. For I this time will send all My plagues into thy heart, and into thy servants, and into thy people; that thou mayest know that there is no one as I in the whole earth. For now I would put forth My hand, and smite thee and thy people with pestilence, and thou wouldest be cut off from the earth; but yet for this cause have I made thee to stand, that thou mayest see My power, and that My name may be told in the whole earth. As yet thou exaltest thyself against My people, in thy not letting them go. Behold, tomorrow about this time I will cause it to rain a very grievous hail, such as hath not been in Egypt since the day it was founded even until now. And Jehovah said unto Moses, signifies instruction again as to what was to be done; Rise up early in the morning, and stand before Pharaoh, signifies the uplifting by means of presence of the attention of those who infest; and say unto him, Thus said Jehovah the God of the Hebrews, signifies a command from the Lord, who is the God of the church; Let My people go that they may serve Me, signifies that they should leave those who are of the spiritual church that they may worship the Lord their God; for this time I will send all My plagues, signifies that it might come to pass that all the coming evils would together rush upon them; into thy heart, signifies into the inmost; and into thy servants, and into thy people, signifies into all things in general and in particular; that thou mayest know that there is no one as I in the whole earth, signifies made known to them from this that the Lord is the only God; for now I would put forth My hand, signifies that all communication might be taken away; and smite thee and thy people with pestilence, signifies thus total devastation; and thou wouldest be cut off from the earth, signifies that thus there would no longer be communication through the things that belong to the church; but yet for this cause have I made thee to stand, signifies that communication would still remain, and they will pass through states by reason of order; that thou mayest see My power, signifies that they may notice how great the Divine power is; and that My name may be told in the whole earth, signifies that thus where the church is the Lord may be acknowledged as the only God; as yet thou exaltest thyself against My people, signifies because he does not yet desist from infesting those who are in truth and good; in thy not letting them go, signifies and does not as yet leave them; behold, tomorrow about this time I will cause it to rain a very grievous hail, signifies falsities destroying all things of the church with them; such as hath not been in Egypt since the day it was founded even until now signifies that with others there is no such destruction in the natural mind.

7537 And Jehovah said unto Moses. That this signifies instruction again as to what was to be done, see above, n. 7517.

7538 Rise up early in the morning, and stand before Pharaoh. That this signifies the uplifting by means of presence of the attention of those who infest, is evident from the signification of rising up early in the morning (see n. 7435); from the signification, of standing before anyone as being presence (n. 7527); and from the representation of Pharaoh, as being those who infest (n. 7107, 7110, 7126, 7142, 7220, 7228).

7539 And say unto him, Thus said Jehovah the God of the Hebrews. That this signifies a command from the Lord, who is the God of the church, is evident from the signification of saying, when by Jehovah or the Lord to those who are in evils and infest, as being a command (see n. 7036, 7310); and from the signification of the Hebrews, as being those of the church, thus the church (n. 6675, 6684, 6738). (That where Jehovah is named in the Word, it is the Lord who is meant, see n. 1343, 1736, 2921, 3023, 3035, 5041, 5663, 6280, 6281, 6303, 6905, 6945, 6956). Thus Jehovah the God of the Hebrews denotes the Lord, who is the God of the church.

7540 Let My people go, that they may serve Me. That this signifies that they should leave those who are of the spiritual church that they may worship the Lord their God, see above (n. 7500), where are like words.

7541 For this time I will send all My plagues. That this signifies that it might come to pass that all the coming evils would together rush upon them, is evident from the signification of plagues, as being evils, here evils to come, even until they were utterly cast into hell, for which reason it is said, all the plagues; and from the signification of sending, as being to rush in, for plagues or evils are not sent by Jehovah or the Lord, but rush in from evil itself; for in the other life evil carries its penalty with it, and has it as it were within itself (see n. 696, 697, 1857, 6559). Hence it is that by I will send all My plagues is signified that all evils would rush in upon them.[2] It is according to order that one plague should follow another, and the evil be thus successively cast down into hell, and therefore it is here said that it might come to pass that they would all rush in together. As the man of the church has no knowledge about the state of the life after death, he believes that after his life in the body a man is either at once uplifted into heaven, or cast into hell; when nevertheless this takes place successively, although with much variety in respect to times and in respect to states. With the good who are to be uplifted into heaven, evils are successively separated, and the good are filled with goods according to the faculty of reception acquired in the world. And with the evil who are to be cast into hell, goods are successively separated, and the evil are successively filled with evils, according to the faculty of reception acquired in the world.[3] Moreover a man in the other life enters into new states, and undergoes changes. Those who are being uplifted into heaven, and afterward when they have been uplifted, are perfected to eternity; but those who are being cast down to hell, and afterward when they have been cast down, endure evils continually more grievous, and this until they dare not do evil to anyone. After this they remain in hell to eternity, whence they cannot be taken out, because it cannot be given them to will good to anyone, but only, from fear of the penalty, not to do evil, the desire to do it always remaining.

7542 Into thy heart. That this signifies into the inmost, is evident from the signification of the heart, as being what is of the will, thus of the love (see n. 2930, 3313, 3888, 3889), consequently what is of the very life, for the love, being of the will, makes the very life; hence it is that by the heart is signified the inmost. The inmost with the good is love to the Lord and love toward the neighbor, but the inmost with the evil is the love of self and the love of the world; it is this inmost that is here meant. The things that are around this inmost and make as it were its circumferences, are evils with the falsities which favor them; and these are disposed in the order in which they favor. In the other life these are unrolled according to the order in which they have been disposed; first come forth those which occupy the outermost circumferences; afterward those which occupy the more interior ones; and at last the inmost is made manifest. Hence it is that a man in the other life passes through many states, and that by degrees, successively, the evil run into plagues, before they are cast into hell, according to what has just been said. The inmost, to which they finally come, is hell itself with them, for it is the evil itself which had been of their love, thus the end for the sake of which they had done all things, and which in the world they had most deeply hidden.

7543 And into thy servants, and into thy people. That this signifies into all things in general and in particular, is evident from the signification of servants and people as being all and each, thus all things and each (see n. 7396).

7544 That thou mayest know that there is no one as I in the whole earth. That this signifies made known to them from this, that the Lord is the only God, is evident from what was said above (n. 7401).

7545 For now I would put forth My hand. That this signifies that all communication might be taken away, is evident from the signification of hand, as being power (see n. 4931-4937, 6292, 6947, 7188, 7189, 7518); and of the hand of Jehovah, as being omnipotence (n. 878, 3387, 7518). Hence to put forth the hand denotes to show power, and from omnipotence to do it. This omnipotence is described by his being able to send all plagues into his heart, into his servants, and into his people, whereby is signified that all evils would rush in together, and thus that communication with the things of heaven would be taken away. It is this exercise of power that is here signified by these words. How the case is with this communication has already been told, namely, that those who infest the upright in the other life are such as in the world have been in the church and have read the Word, and have known the doctrinal things of faith of their church and have also professed them, but have lived a life of evil. So long as such in the other life retain the things of faith, they have communication with heaven, and so long they cannot be cast down into hell; and therefore it is these things that are by degrees taken away from them; and after these have been taken away, the evil no longer have anything to hold them up; but then like weights without support, or like birds with their wings cut off, they fall downward,...

And Jehovah said unto Moses, Come unto Pharaoh, and speak unto him, Thus said Jehovah the God of the Hebrews, Let My people go that they may serve Me. For if thou refuse to let them go, and if thou still withhold them, behold, the hand of Jehovah shall be on thy cattle which is in the field, on the horses, on the asses, on the camels, on the herd, and on the flock; a very grievous pestilence. And Jehovah shall sever between the cattle of Israel and the cattle of the Egyptians, and there shall nothing die of all that belongeth to the sons of Israel. And Jehovah appointed a set time, saying, Tomorrow Jehovah shall do this word in the land. And Jehovah did this word on the morrow, and all the cattle of the Egyptians died; and of the cattle of the sons of Israel died not one. And Pharaoh sent, and behold there was not so much as one of the cattle of Israel dead; and Pharaoh’s heart was made heavy, and he did not let the people go.

Exodus 9: 1-7

Arcana Coelestia 7496. “And Jehovah said unto Moses,” signifies instruction anew; “Come unto Pharaoh, and speak unto him,” signifies the appearance of truth from the Divine with those who infest; “Thus said Jehovah the God of the Hebrews,” signifies a command from the Lord the God of the church; “Let My people go that they may serve Me,” signifies that they should leave those who are of the spiritual church so that they may worship the Lord; “for if thou refuse to let them go, and if thou still withhold them,” signifies if they should still be determined to infest; “behold the hand of Jehovah shall be on thy cattle which is in the field,” signifies the vastation of the truth and good of faith which they have from the church wherein they had been; “on the horses, on the asses, on the camels,” signifies the intellectual things and the memory-knowledges of the truth that is of faith; “on the herd, and on the flock,” signifies the things of the will; “a very grievous pestilence,” signifies a consumption in general; “and Jehovah shall sever between the cattle of Israel and the cattle of the Egyptians,” signifies the difference between the truths and goods of faith of those who are of the spiritual church, and the truths and goods of faith which are of the church with those who infest; “and there shall nothing die of all that belongeth to the sons of Israel,” signifies that they shall not be consumed; “and Jehovah appointed a set time,” signifies predetermination; “saying, Tomorrow Jehovah shall do this word in the land,” signifies theirs forever in respect to the things that belong to the truth and good of faith of the church; “and Jehovah did this word on the morrow,” signifies the effect according to the predetermination; “and all the cattle of the Egyptians died,” signifies the consumption of the truth and good of faith with those who infest; “and of the cattle of the sons of Israel died not one,” signifies that nothing of faith was consumed with those who were of the spiritual church; “and Pharaoh sent, and behold there was not so much as one of the cattle of Israel dead,” signifies that this was made known to those who infest; “and Pharaoh’s heart was made heavy,” signifies obstinacy; “and he did not let the people go,” signifies that they did not leave them.

Faith alone

AC 7502 [4] That such is the case no one can know except from revelation, for man has no knowledge of the things that exist in the other life except from revelation; and as man is but little solicitous to explore the truths and goods which are of faith from the Word (for he is in no affection of truth for its own sake, still less for the sake of life), therefore such things are not revealed to him; nevertheless they stand forth in the Word (and this in respect to every series and process) in its internal sense. As therefore the man of the church is in no affection of knowing truth from the Word, but only in the affection of confirming the doctrinal things of his own church whether true or false, for worldly reasons, therefore he knows nothing whatever about the state after death, nothing about heaven, and nothing about hell; he does not even know what makes heaven and what makes hell with man. Nay, so ignorant are men that they teach and believe that everyone can be admitted into heaven; some by a power which they have arrogated to themselves; some by the mercy of the Lord, no matter how they had lived; and scarcely any know that heaven is given to man by means of a life of charity and faith during his life in the world, and that this life remains. These things have been said in order that the quality may be known of that man of the church who professes faith alone and cares not about the life of faith; for these are they who are represented by the Egyptians here and in what follows.

The process is gradual not all at once

7502 [3] The reason why those who have been of the church and have lived a life of evil are thus gradually vastated before they are cast into hell, is that they had known the truths of faith, and thereby had had communication with heaven. The heavenly societies with which they have had communication, and also still have it in the other life, cannot be separated from them except by degrees. For such is the order in heaven from the Lord that nothing is done violently, but all things in freedom as from themselves; therefore those heavenly societies are not wrested from them, but are gradually separated, so that the evil spirits seem to depart of their own accord.

What is living (i.e. of the church), cannot die

AC 7507... That the goods and truths of faith which are with those who are of the church cannot die, is because they have been conjoined with the Divine by means of charity, and the Divine is life itself, and is eternal; and that which has been conjoined with life itself and with what is eternal, cannot die or be consumed; but remains to eternity, and is continually being perfected; 

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From Documents concerning the life and character of Emanuel Swedenborg by Tafel, J. F. I. (Johann Friedrich Immanuel), 1796-1863; Smithson, J. H. (John Henry), 1803-1877, ed. and tr; Bush, George, 1796-1859, ed, Vol 1. HIS LETTERS TO DR. OETINGER. Pg 153 Document 25

Concerning the Natural and Spiritual Sense of the Word. That there is an internal or spiritual sense in the Word, in its external or natural sense, as a diamond in its matrix, or as a beautiful infant in its swaddling clothes, is a truth which has heretofore been altogether unknown in the Christian world, and hence also it is altogether unknown what is meant by the Consummation of the Age, the Coming of the Lord, the Last Judgment, and by the New Jerusalem, on which subjects many things are spoken and predicted in the Word of each Testament, both Old and New. Without the unfolding and unswathing of the literal sense of the Word by its spiritual sense, who can know intellectually what is signified by the things which the Lord predicted in Matt, xxiv., and also in the Revelations, and in like manner in Daniel, and in the Prophets, in many passages. Make the experiment yourself, if you are so disposed, by reading those passages of the prophetical Word, which treat sometimes of wild beasts and cattle, sometimes of forests and brakes, sometimes of valleys and mountains, sometimes of bats, of ochim, tziim, satyrs ; try whether you can perceive anything Divine therein, unless you believe it to lie concealed inwardly, inasmuch as it was inspired of God, just as a diamond lies concealed in its matrix, as was said above. That the diamonds, or treasures, which lie concealed within, are those things which the internal sense contains, is fully demonstrated in the doctrine of the New Jerusalem, concerning the Sacred Scripture, 5-26 : and in the same doctrine it is further proved, that the literal sense is the basis, continent, and firmament of its spiritual sense, 27-36 ; also, that the Divine truth in the literal sense of the Word is in its fulness, in its sanctity, and in its power, 37-49 ; and, likewise, that the doctrine of the church is to be drawn from the literal sense of the Word, and to be confirmed thereby, 50-61 ; and, moreover, that by the literal sense of the Word, through the medium of its spiritual sense, there is effected conjunction with the Lord, and consociation with the angels, 62-69.

Exodus 8. 1. And Jehovah said unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Stretch forth thy hand with thy rod over the streams, over the rivers, and over the pools, and cause frogs to come up upon the land of Egypt. 2. And Aaron stretched out his hand over the waters of Egypt; and the frogs came up, and covered the land of Egypt. 3. And the magicians of Egypt did so with their enchantments, and caused frogs to come up upon the land of Egypt. 4. And Pharaoh called Moses and Aaron, and said, Supplicate ye unto Jehovah that He remove the frogs from me and from my people; and I will let the people go, that they may sacrifice to Jehovah. 5. And Moses said unto Pharaoh, Have thou honor over me, till when shall I supplicate for thee, and for thy servants, and for thy people, to cut off the frogs from thee, and from thy houses? Only in the river shall they be left. 6. And he said, Unto the morrow. And he said, Be it according to thy word; that thou mayest know that there is none like Jehovah our God. 7. And the frogs shall be removed from thee, and from thy houses, and from thy servants, and from thy people; only in the river shall they be left. 8. And Moses and Aaron went out from before Pharaoh; and Moses cried unto Jehovah upon the word of the frogs which He had laid on Pharaoh. 9. And Jehovah did according to the word of Moses; and the frogs died out of the houses, out of the courts, and out of the fields. 10. And they gathered them together in heaps and heaps; and the land stank. 11. And Pharaoh saw that there was breathing, and he made heavy his heart, and heard them not, as Jehovah had spoken. 12. And Jehovah said unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Stretch out thy rod, and smite the dust of the land, and it shall become lice in all the land of Egypt. 13. And they did so; and Aaron stretched out his hand with his rod, and smote the dust of the land, and there was louse on man and on beast; all the dust of the land became louse in all the land of Egypt. 14. And the magicians did so with their enchantments to bring forth lice, and they could not; and there was louse on man and on beast. 15. And the magicians said unto Pharaoh, This is the finger of God; and Pharaoh’s heart was made firm, and he heard them not, as Jehovah had spoken. 16. And Jehovah said unto Moses, Rise up early in the morning, and stand before Pharaoh; lo, he goeth forth unto the waters; and say unto him, Thus saith Jehovah, Let My people go, that they may serve Me. 17. For if thou let not My people go, behold I send against thee, and against thy servants, and against thy people, and into thy houses, the noisome fly; and the houses of the Egyptians shall be filled with the noisome fly, and also the land whereon they are. 18. And I will sever in that day the land of Goshen, upon which My people stand, that no noisome fly be there; to the end that thou mayest know that I am Jehovah in the midst of the land. 19. And I will set redemption between My people and thy people; unto the morrow shall this sign be. 20. And Jehovah did so; and there came the grievous noisome fly into the house of Pharaoh, and into the house of his servants, and into all the land of Egypt; the land was destroyed from before the noisome fly.

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Arcana Coelestia 5664. [2] It is known in the church that truth is instilled and given by the Lord; for it is taught that faith is not from man but from God; thus not only confidence, but also the truths of faith are from Him. Still it appears as if the truths of faith were procured by the man, for he is profoundly ignorant that they flow in, because he does not perceive it. The reason why he does not perceive it is that his interiors are closed, so that he cannot have perceptible communication with spirits and angels; and when the interiors are closed the man can know nothing whatever about influx.

[3] Be it known, however, that it is one thing to know the truths of faith, and quite another to believe them. They who merely know the truths of faith, charge their memory with them just as they do with the facts of any other branch of knowledge. These truths man can procure for himself without such an influx, but they have no life, as is plain from the fact that an evil man, even the worst, can know the truths of faith just as much as an upright and pious man. But as before said with the evil these truths have no life; for when an evil man brings them forth he regards in everyone of them either self-glory or gain; so that it is the love of self and of the world that inflates them and makes a sort of life; but it is such life as there is in hell, which is called spiritual death. Hence it is that when he brings them forth, he brings them forth from the memory, and not from the heart, whereas he who believes the truths of faith brings them forth from the heart at the same time as from the lips; for with him the truths of faith are so deeply rooted in as to have their root in the outer memory, and to grow from there toward what is interior or higher, like fruit-bearing trees; and like trees they deck themselves with leaves, and at last with blossoms, for the sake of the end of bearing fruit. So it is with such a man.

[4] He also aims at nothing else through the truths of faith than uses, which are the practices of charity, which to him are the fruits. These are the truths which man cannot procure for himself, even in the smallest degree; but they are gratuitously bestowed on him by the Lord, and this in every moment of his life, nay, if he will believe it, without number in every moment. But as man is of such a nature as to have no perception of their flowing in, for as before said if he had the perception he would resist, because he would believe that he would then lose his own, and with his own his freedom, and with his freedom his delight, and would thus become a thing of nought, it is therefore brought about that man does not know but that he procures truths of himself. This then is what is meant by saying that it will seem as truth procured by them. Moreover, in order that a heavenly own and heavenly freedom may be bestowed on man, he must needs do good as of himself and think what is true as of himself; but when he reflects he should acknowledge that these are from the Lord (see n. 2882, 2883, 2891).

Doctrine of Sacred Scripture 40. The truths of the sense of the letter of the Word are in part not naked truths, but appearances of truth, and are as it were likenesses and comparisons taken from things such as exist in nature, and thus accommodated and adapted to the apprehension of the simple and of little children. But being correspondences they are receptacles and abodes of genuine truth; and are like enclosing and containing vessels, as a crystal cup encloses noble wine, and as a silver plate holds palatable food. They are also like garments which clothe, as swathings do an infant, and a pretty dress a maiden. They are also like the memory-knowledges [scientifica] of the natural man which contain within them perceptions and affections of truth of the spiritual man. The naked truths themselves which are enclosed, held, clothed, and contained, are in the spiritual sense of the Word; and the naked goods are in its celestial sense.

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So there are a couple of things. There's the content, which is what I think you're mainly focused on. And then there's the process. So what you've expressed just then is a submission. It might not appear to be that, but it's what's happening in being here. And so the struggles that we have in trying to give expression to things puts us in front of tendencies to critique ourselves in the light of how others hearing this, how are they seeing this. So there's a lot of things that can arise in the struggle to bring what we have to bring. So, you know, it's not really about repeating the content. What it's about is what arises in the struggle to do that because in Logopraxis, the key elements are becoming aware of the patterns that operate within us. And the format just provides a means of doing that. So what you've just shared there reveals certain patterns in terms of what happens when I'm in a situation that I feel that, you know, either I'm not coping or I'm not meeting expectations or, you know, however that's framed. It reveals a lot about those habitual patterns that are hidden, which is what this whole reading is about, right. So what has been shared is an awareness of patterns. And so the Word has actually undertaken to produce an illustration through your frustration that is of benefit to us all because we get to see how subtle these things work.

So, you're free to modify things in any way you like. What I would say is that whatever it is, the Lord is wanting you to see through this process, modify to your heart's delight. You still will be brought to see what it is you need to see. And thanks for this submission that you're bringing now. This is gold, right? This is the living edge of the human struggle to bring what is higher into the lower. You know, that's the struggle and it illustrates this text like, you know, you have Jehovah, you have Moses, you have Aaron, you have the sons of Israel, you have Pharaoh, you have all these levels. And Moses doesn't think anyone's listening to him. Pharaoh is disrupted by the whole thing. Aaron, he's having to carry out what Moses is sort of telling him that Jehovah said to him. And like, it's all a struggle, you know, like the whole spiritual life trying to bring what is higher into a form that can meet us, that can be accommodated to the level that we live at. Is the struggle. And that's what Logopraxis is about. So as I said, look, we're free to approach things in the way that we feel we must, but also be aware of what's arising as we try to do that, because that's where the revelation is so far as our contact with our work is concerned.

Just one other thing also, there's what we say and then there's what others are hearing and people are processing things through their own inner connection with the Lord. And so what's being heard out of the shares is not necessarily what's being said. So again, the content is a means, it's a structural element, but the real material is what sits within that. So it's not just about being able to express things according to how we feel we should be able to express them, because people are listening and the Lord is pulling together within their own mind what's needed for the group. So this is a very different way of functioning in group work than we find in most forms of group work that, yeah, even like biblical study or studying of the doctrines here, because it's what gets bound together. And, you know, look, what you've spoken about has initiated this conversation and that's of benefit to everybody, right? So the Lord brings everything together into a human form, which feeds the group, feeds everybody.

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7516 Verses 8-12. And Jehovah said unto Moses and unto Aaron, Take to you in the fullness of your fists ashes of the furnace, and let Moses sprinkle it toward heaven unto the eyes of Pharaoh. And it shall be dust over all the land of Egypt, and it shall be upon man and upon beast a sore breaking forth in pustules in all the land of Egypt. And they took ashes of the furnace, and stood before Pharaoh; and Moses sprinkled it toward heaven, and it became a sore of pustules breaking forth on man and on beast. And the magicians could not stand before Moses because of the sore; for the sore was on the magicians and on all the Egyptians. And Jehovah made firm the heart of Pharaoh, and he heard them not, as Jehovah had spoken unto Moses. And Jehovah said unto Moses and unto Aaron, signifies instruction anew; take to you in the fullness of your fists, signifies power given, as much as could be received; ashes of the furnace, signifies of exciting the falsities of cupidities through presence with those who infest; and let Moses sprinkle it toward heaven, signifies these falsities shown to those who are in heaven; unto the eyes of Pharaoh, signifies in the presence; and it shall be dust over all the land of Egypt, signifies the damnation of these falsities in the natural mind; and it shall be upon man and upon beast, signifies which are from evil interior and exterior; a sore breaking forth in pustules, signifies filthy things together with the consequent blasphemies; in all the land of Egypt, signifies in the whole natural mind; and they took ashes of the furnace, signifies falsities of cupidities; and stood before Pharaoh, signifies in the presence of those who infest; and Moses sprinkled it toward heaven, signifies these things shown to those who are in heaven; and it became a sore of pustules breaking forth on man and on beast, signifies filthy things together with blasphemies from evil interior and exterior; and the magicians could not stand before Moses because of the sore, signifies that those could not be present who abused Divine order by portraying the like in the outward form; for the sore was on the magicians, signifies that the like filthy things came forth from them; and on all the Egyptians, signifies as were in those who were infesting; and Jehovah made firm the heart of Pharaoh, signifies that they were determined; and he heard them not, signifies that they did not obey; as Jehovah had spoken unto Moses, signifies according to the prediction.

7517 And Jehovah said unto Moses and unto Aaron. That this signifies instruction anew, is evident from the signification of Jehovah said, as being instruction (as above, n. 7497); that it is instruction anew, is because a new state is now treated of, the former being ended. The instruction which is from Jehovah is given by means of the truth which proceeds from Him. The truth which proceeds from Jehovah is represented by Moses and Aaron; internal truth by Moses, and external truth by Aaron (n. 7382).

7518 Take to you in the fullness of your fists. That this signifies power given, as much as could be received, is evident from the signification of the fists, or palms of the hands, as being power; that the fists, or palms of the hands, denote power, is because the hands signify power (of which below); as much as can be received is signified by fullness. As regards the signification of the fists, or the palms of the hands, be it known that the arms in the Grand Man correspond to power; and from this not only do the arms themselves signify power, but also the shoulders, and likewise the hands, down to the fingers. (That the arms denote power, see n. 878, 4932, 4934, 4935, 7205; and the shoulders, n. 1085, 4937; and the hands, n. 878, 3387, 5327, 5328, 5544, 6292, 6947, 7011, 7188, 7189; also the fingers, n. 7430; for their correspondence in general, see above, n. 4931-4937.) The reason why all things that pertain to the arm correspond to power, is that the body exercises its power by means of them. From all this it can be seen what is signified by sitting at the right hand:Jesus said, Henceforth ye shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of power (Matt. 26:64);From henceforth shall the Son of man be seated at the right hand of the power of God (Luke 22:69);namely, the omnipotence which is the Lord's; and therefore it is said at the right hand of power; as also in David:Thou hast a mighty arm, strong is Thy hand, exalted shall be Thy right hand (Ps. 89:13).All this shows what light is given in the Word by the internal sense, for unless it were thereby known that by the right hand is signified power, it would be understood according to the words, that the Lord would sit at the right hand of Jehovah.

7519 Ashes of the furnace. That this signifies of exciting the falsities of cupidities through presence with those who infest, is evident from the signification of ashes of the furnace, as being the falsities of cupidities (of which below). That it denotes excitation by presence with those who infest, is evident from what follows in this verse, for it is said that Moses sprinkled it toward heaven in the eyes of Pharaoh. By in the eyes is signified presence, and by Pharaoh are signified those who infest (as often shown).[2] How the case is with these things cannot be known without revelation, for they are such as take place in the other life, and are not known in the world. So long as evil or infernal spirits are removed and separated from heaven, that is, from the good of love and the truth of faith which are there, they do not know that they are in evils and falsities, for they then believe falsities to be truths, and evils to be goods; but as soon as heaven comes nearer to them, that is, some heavenly society, they notice the falsities and evils; for the truth of faith which then flows in causes them to notice the falsities; and the good of love which flows in causes them to notice the evils; and the nearer that heaven comes, or the more presently there inflows its good of love and truth of faith (seeing that they cannot endure these), the more grievously are they reproached by their own evils and falsities.[3] From all this it can now be seen why it was commanded that Moses should take ashes of the furnace and sprinkle them toward heaven, and that he should do this in the eyes of Pharaoh; also why it was commanded that he, and not Aaron, should sprinkle the ashes toward heaven. For by ashes being sprinkled toward heaven is signified the influx of heaven; by this being done in the eyes of Pharaoh is signified in the presence of those who infest; that Moses was to do this, and not Aaron, is because the truth proceeding immediately from the Divine presents this effect with the evil; Moses being the truth which proceeds immediately from the Divine, and Aaron that which proceeds mediately (n. 7010). From all this it is evident what is meant in the internal sense by the contents of this verse and of that next following, namely, that there would be excited filthy and loathsome things of cupidities together with blasphemies, which are signified by the sore breaking forth in pustules. These things are excited when Divine truth flows in, and heaven comes nearer.[4] Everyone can see that such things would never have been commanded by Jehovah to Moses unless there were a heavenly secret therein; that is to say, that Moses should take ashes of the furnace and sprinkle them toward heaven. Such means of producing the effect would never have been ordered by Jehovah unless they had contained something heavenly, to which these means correspond. From this can be seen the nature of the Word, that it is crowded with secret things, but with such as do not stand forth in the sense of the letter.[5] That ashes of the furnace signify falsities of cupidities, is because they are from burnt things; and burning, as also fire itself, in the Word, in a good sense, signify the good of heavenly affections; but in the opposite sense, the evil of infernal cupidities. That fire has this signification see n. 934, 1861, 2446, 4906, 5071, 5215, 6314, 6832, 6834, 6849, 7324; and that burning denotes the evil of cupidities, n. 1297, 5215; hence it is that ashes signify falsities, for falsities are from the evils of cupidities. And as the evils of cupidities are signified by fire, they are also signified by a furnace, which is the containant, and this frequently involves the same as that which it contains.[6] That a furnace has this signification is evident from these passages:Behold, the day cometh, burning as a furnace; and all the proud, and everyone that worketh wickedness, shall be stubble; and the day that cometh shall set them on fire, it shall leave them neither root nor branch (Mal. 4:1);where burning as a furnace denotes the cupidities of evil; setting them on fire, a kindling with cupidities.[7] In Genesis:Abraham looked toward the faces of Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward the faces of all the land of the plain, and he saw, and the smoke of the land went up, as the smoke of a furnace (Gen. 19:28);where the smoke of a furnace denotes falsities from the evils of cupidities, for Sodom denotes the evil of cupidities from the love of self, and Gomorrah the falsity thence derived (see n. 2220, 2245, 2322). In John:There went up a smoke out of the pit of the abyss, as the smoke of a furnace (Rev. 9:2);where the smoke of a furnace in like manner denotes falsities from evils of cupidities; the pit of the abyss denotes hell.[8] In Matthew:The Son of man shall send His angels, who shall gather out of His kingdom all things that cause stumbling, and them that do iniquity, and shall send them into the furnace of fire (Matt. 13:41-42);where the furnace of fire denotes the evils of cupidities; for the fire of cupidities is what is meant in

7450. Verses 21-28. And Pharaoh called Moses and Aaron, and said, Go ye, sacrifice to your God in the land. And Moses said, It is not meet to do so, for we shall sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians to Jehovah our God; lo, we shall sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians unto their eyes, and will they not stone us? We will go a way of three days into the wilderness, and will sacrifice to Jehovah our God, as He hath said unto us. And Pharaoh said, I will let you go, and ye shall sacrifice to Jehovah your God in the wilderness; only ye shall not go very far away: supplicate for me. And Moses said, Behold, I go forth from thee, and I will supplicate unto Jehovah that He may remove the noisome fly from Pharaoh, from his servants, and from his people, tomorrow; only let not Pharaoh mock any more in not letting the people go to sacrifice to Jehovah. And Moses went out from before Pharaoh, and he supplicated unto Jehovah. And Jehovah did according to the word of Moses; and He removed the noisome fly from Pharaoh, from his servants, and from his people; there was not one left. And Pharaoh made heavy his heart this time also, and he did not let the people go.

“And Pharaoh called Moses and Aaron” signifies the presence of the law Divine; “and said, Go ye, sacrifice to your God in the land,” signifies that they would not oppose their worshiping their God, but it must be done in their neighborhood; “and Moses said,” signifies the answer; “it is not meet to do so, for we shall sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians to Jehovah our God,” signifies that infernal foulness and filthiness would flow in; “lo, we shall sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians before their eyes,” signifies that Divine worship would be infested by such if done in their presence; “and will they not stone us?” signifies that thus they would extinguish the truths of faith which are of worship; “we will go a way of three days into the wilderness,” signifies that they would utterly depart so as to be in freedom; “and will sacrifice to Jehovah our God,” signifies that in this way there would be worship; “as He hath said unto us,” signifies as He has commanded; “and Pharaoh said, I will let you go, and ye shall sacrifice to Jehovah your God in the wilderness,” signifies that they would leave them, and not infest them, so that they may worship their God in freedom; “only ye shall not go very far away,” signifies although they are in the neighborhood; “supplicate for me,” signifies that they should intercede; “and Moses said, Behold, I go forth from thee,” signifies the removal of the appearance of truth Divine among them; “and I will supplicate unto Jehovah,” signifies intercession; “that He may remove the noisome fly from Pharaoh, from his servants, and from his people” signifies that there may be an end of this state in respect to the falsities of malevolence; “tomorrow,” signifies forever; “only let not Pharaoh mock anymore in not letting the people go to sacrifice to Jehovah,” signifies provided he does not deceive by a lie, and does not [fail to] leave them to worship their God in freedom; “and Moses went out from Pharaoh” signifies the removal of the appearance of truth Divine among those who are in falsities of malevolence; “and he supplicated unto Jehovah,” signifies intercession; “and Jehovah did according to the word of Moses,” signifies that it was so done according to the word of the Lord; “and he removed the noisome fly from Pharaoh, from his servants, and from his people,” signifies the end of this state of falsity; “there was not one left,” signifies a full removal; “and Pharaoh made heavy his heart this time also,” signifies obstinacy again; “and he did not let the people go,” signifies that they would not leave those who were of the spiritual church.

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7480. I have been instructed that the spirits of Mars have relation to something which is interior in man, and indeed intermediate between the intellectual part and the will part, thus to thought from affection; and they who are the best of them, to the affection of the thought. This is the reason why their face makes a one with their thought, and why they cannot dissemble before anyone (as was said of them above, see n. 7360, 7361).

7482. Once when the spirits of Mars were with me, and occupied the sphere of my mind, spirits from our earth came near and wished to infuse themselves also into that sphere; but then the spirits of our earth became as if insane, because they did not at all agree. For the spirits of our earth look to themselves and the world, thus they are in an idea turned to themselves; but the spirits of Mars look to heaven, thus to the Lord and their neighbor, and hence are in an idea turned away from themselves. From this cause there is contrariety. But then came near some angelic spirits of Mars, by whose coming the communication was taken away; and so the spirits of our earth retired.

Abomination and in secret in the dark

7454. It is not meet to do so, for we shall sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians to Jehovah our God. That this signifies that infernal foulness and filthiness would flow in, is evident from the signification of “it is not meet to do so,” as being that it cannot be so done; from the signification of “abomination,” as being infernal foulness and filthiness; and from the signification of “sacrificing to Jehovah God,” as being to worship their God (of whi ch above, n. 7452). Hence by “sacrificing to Jehovah God the abomination of the Egyptians” is signified that they would worship God with a worship which those would abominate who are in falsities from what is infernal contrary to this worship, and which would infest it.

[2] How the case stands with this matter is very evident from things that show themselves clearly in the other life. Every spirit, and still more every society, is surrounded with a sphere of the faith and of the life of that spirit or society. This sphere is a spiritual sphere, and by it is known the quality of the spirit, and even better that of the society. For the sphere is perceived by those who have perception, sometimes at a considerable distance; and this although the spirit or the society is in hiding, and does not communicate by thought or by speech. This spiritual sphere may be compared to the material sphere which encompasses the body of a man in the world, which is a sphere of effluvia exuding from him, and is smelled by keen-scented beasts. (Of the spiritual sphere which encompasses spirits, see n. 1048, 1053, 1316, 1504, 1519, 2401, 2489, 4464, 5179, 6206)

[3] From all this it can be seen that if infernal spirits were near where they are who are in Divine worship, they would infest them by their sphere, for in this way they who are in Divine worship would perceive what is shocking and abominable. All this shows how it is to be understood that infernal foulness and filthiness would flow in, if they were to worship God in that neighborhood. From what has been said about the spiritual sphere, or the sphere of faith and life, which exhales from every spirit, and still more from a society of spirits, it can also be seen that nothing whatever is hidden of that which a man in the world has thought, spoken, and done, but that it is in the open; for it is these things which make this sphere. Such a sphere also pours forth from the spirit of a man while he is in the body in the world; and from this his quality is also known. Therefore believe not that the things a man thinks in secret and that he does in secret, are hidden, for they are as clearly shown in heaven as are those which appear in the light of noon, according to the Lord’s words in Luke:

There is nothing covered that shall not be revealed; or hidden that shall not be known; therefore whatsoever ye have said in the darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in bed-chambers, shall be proclaimed upon the housetops (Luke 12:2-3).

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Arcana Colestia 7392. That He remove the frogs from me, and from my people. That this signifies that they might not be driven to reasonings from mere falsities, is evident from the signification of “removing,” as being not to be driven, for the cause of the supplication was weariness arising from being driven to reason from mere falsities; from the signification of “frogs,” as being reasonings from mere falsities (see n. 7351, 7352); and from the representation of Pharaoh and also of the Egyptians, as being those who are in falsities and infest (of which frequently above).

[2] As regards the weariness which is the cause of the supplication or humiliation of those who infest, be it known that this is undelightful to them, for they cannot do mischief by reasonings from mere falsities, because the upright-here those who are of the Lord’s spiritual church whom they were infesting-laugh at mere falsities, which are negations of truth; but they could do mischief by means of the falsities from the fallacies and appearances by which truths are falsified (which falsified truths are signified by the blood into which the waters of Egypt were turned, n. 7317, 7326), because fallacies and appearances seduce, for they are like a shade and veil to truths. And because they cannot do mischief by means of reasonings from mere falsities, that is, from utter negations of truth, it is undelightful to them, and therefore they deprecate it; for nothing delights the infernals except doing mischief in every possible way; doing mischief being the very delight of their life, insomuch that it is their very life; and therefore when they are not allowed to do mischief, they are in weariness. This is the reason why Pharaoh prayed for deliverance from the evil of the frogs, but not from the evil of the blood, of which above; nor from the evil of the lice, of which below; for by the evil of the frogs is signified infestation by means of reasonings from mere falsities, by which reasonings they cannot do mischief; whereas by the evil of the blood is signified infestation by means of falsities from fallacies and appearances, which infestation is delightful to them, because they can do mischief by its means; and by the evil of the lice are signified evils, which are delightful to them because they are evils.

[3] In the other life all those perceive delight in doing mischief who in the world do not impart benefits to the neighbor for the sake of the neighbor, nor to their country for the sake of their country, nor to the church for the sake of the church, but for the sake of themselves; thus who do not do truth and good for the sake of truth and good. That they have delight in doing mischief does not show itself in the world, because the external man hides it; but in the other life when the outward things are being taken away and the man is left to his inward things, then this delight comes forth and manifests itself. From this it is that they are in hell, for all who are there love to do mischief, whereas all who are in heaven love to impart benefits.

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