In this Logos Podcast episode, Jarrad Hope interviews Federico Ast, founder of Kleros, a decentralised arbitration service.

Federico shares his journey into the crypto world, influenced by Argentina's economic challenges, and describes how he envisioned Kleros as a tool to globally democratise access to justice through low-cost arbitration.

They explore the mechanics of Kleros, emphasising its use of blockchain for transparency and economic incentives to ensure fair decision-making. The conversation also highlights Frederico's thoughts on the necessity of blending historical governance insights with modern decentralised systems to create efficient and legitimate solutions.

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RESOURCES:

Jarrad Hope X

Federico Ast X

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READING & COURSES:

The Sovereign Individual: Mastering the Transition to the Information Age

Yale Introduction to Political Philosophy

Yale Power and Politics in Today’s world

Oxford Very Short Introduction series

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00:02 What Led You to Start Kleros?

00:03:46 Is Kleros Rooted in Practical Necessity?

00:06:00 How Do Economic Incentives Play a Role in Kleros?

00:10:26 How Did Kleros Handle Disputes in Prediction Markets?

00:18:17 How Do You See Kleros as a Tool for Decentralized Justice?

00:22:35 How Does Kleros Address Real World Problems?

00:28:01 How Has Kleros Bridged The On-Chain and Real-World Divide?

00:33:27 How Does Enforcement Work in Kleros?

00:41:15 Can Kleros Shape Future Governance Models?

00:44:10 What Can DAOs Learn From Political History?

00:48:22 What’s Next for Kleros and Decentralized Justice?

00:54:39 Which Books and Courses Should Blockchain Enthusiasts Read?

This week Jarrad Hope spoke to Jameson Lopp to discuss his decade-long effort to promote self-custody in Bitcoin by lowering technical barriers for users, emphasizing the fight against human nature's preference for convenience over security. Lopp traces his journey into Bitcoin and Cypherpunk ideology, highlighting the appeal of cryptography in creating open and fair systems resistant to manipulation.

Both Lopp and Hope explore various technological solutions and the challenges inherent in privacy and decentralization, such as the pitfalls of centralization in legacy protocols and the need for vigilant, iterative improvements in Bitcoin.

Finally, Lopp underscores the importance of evolving Bitcoin's base protocol to foster more innovation at the second layer, while maintaining the decentralized ethos of the network.

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Jarrad Hope talks to Diego Gutierrez-Zaldivar, Chairman and Co-founder at IOVLabs and co-founder of Rootstock.io, about his lifelong mission to create an equitable society by integrating technology and social work.

He believes that Bitcoin can transform society by establishing a peer-to-peer monetary system, merging his passion for technology with social transformation, particularly in financially unstable regions such as Latin America.

By collaborating with governments and NGOs, Diego aims to scale and implement decentralized digital trust frameworks, ensuring financial inclusion while preserving individual freedom.