Join us the for the season finale and last part of Lee Vartanian’s story. You don’t want to miss it! 

This week the story continues as Lee drops more bombshells and tells us about what was really happening behind the scenes of Bridgeway Church. 

In this tell all interview Lee Vartanian the COO and Head Associate Pastor of Bridgeway Church comes forward with his own story of abuse and manipulation of power. 

In this episode Josh and Ashley continue their conversation on the ways that you can identify toxic and unhealthy spiritual cultures. The topic of inclusion vs exclusion is the center of the conversation and we explore patterns of disfunction and abuse.  

In this eye-opening episode titled "See No Evil," hosts Josh and Ashley delve into the pressing issue of overlooked abuses within religious institutions. They candidly discuss the complex dynamics of loyalty that often lead to turning a blind eye to misconduct and unhealthy church cultures. From worshipping pastors more than God to addressing gender and racial inequalities, they explore how these red flags manifest in religious settings.

The episode highlights personal experiences and offers insights on recognizing toxic church environments that prioritize platform over true pastoral duties. It questions the dangerous line between personal conviction and church doctrine while promoting the idea of a welcoming and truly inclusive community of faith.

Join the hosts next week as they dive deeper into the topic of abuse within the church, tackling issues such as sexual, physical, verbal, and spiritual abuses that are too often ignored.

In this episode- Ashley shares her early experiences of inequality within the church, while Josh recounts his upbringing in multiple cult environments and the subsequent journey out of them. This episode sets the stage for exploring difficult yet essential conversations about healing, transformation, and maintaining faith amidst adversity.