This episode Jenny Salt sits down with paediatrician and child advocate, Dr Kim Oates, the former CEO of the Children's Hospital at Westmead.

Kim is a doctor, academic, writer, husband, father, grandfather and a Christian.

It's hard to summarise all that Kim has done over the years but what shines brightest is that God has used a heart well-designed for working with children so that, in all types of pain, these little ones had someone who was ready to listen.

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