Season One (Ep22 )This episode centers on healing, spiritual perspective, and the subtle ways the divine interacts with daily life. Abella shares an update on her post-surgery recovery and how the slow, humbling process has reshaped her connection with the divine, especially Lucifer. Abella describes how healing forced her to slow down, release expectations, and appreciate small, nuanced signs rather than dramatic interventions. These quiet moments, she explains, have profoundly shifted her practice and her nervous system, showing her that the most meaningful spiritual experiences often arise from levity, presence, and simplicity.

The conversation expands into how many practitioners seem to experience similar spiritual themes at the same time, and how lowering expectations of the divine allows for deeper connection. Through personal stories including humorous, subtle messages like "don't worry about the title" and a transformative moment of noticing the first snowfall Abella emphasizes that divine beings don't enable shortcuts, especially with psychic development. Instead, they illuminate the internal work needed for growth. The episode highlights the importance of non-transactional relationships with the divine, co-evolution, gratitude, and embracing the magic within everyday moments rather than seeking constant intensity or grand revelation.

Inane - silly and meanless:

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Season One (Ep21) This episode explores the figure of Satan, addressing common misconceptions while offering our own theological perspectives. The conversation acts as a "sneak peek" into Abella's book Lunchtime with Demons, which examines references to Satan across a wide range of sources from the Bible to the Satanic Bible. The hosts highlight one of the most persistent misunderstandings: the assumption that Satan is synonymous with figures like Lucifer or Beelzebub, sharing our personal experience of Satan as distinct from Lucifer. Ultimately, we share our personal gnosis of Satan as a force that champions self-sovereignty, free will, and resistance to tyranny.

Veracious – adj. always telling the truth

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Season One (Ep20) This week's episode of Lunch Time with Demons we are discussing fear and how that impacts people working with the infernal divine. Abella shares a recent interaction with King Asmodeus, who prompted her to address a pattern he noticed: many of his practitioners have been ignoring him. After Abella made a TikTok video asking why people were avoiding his call, it unexpectedly gained traction, revealing three common reasons fear, lack of time, or not realizing he was reaching out and now feeling guilty. Bella explains that these reactions touched her deeply, prompting her to explore the emotional and spiritual roots of avoiding the divine, particularly when it asks something of us. We unpack why practitioners fear engaging with infernal entities, emphasizing cultural conditioning, survival-mode thinking, and the demonizing narratives created by monotheistic traditions. We explain how historical lore, grimoires, and centuries of adversarial framing have shaped modern fears, even though these beings are far more complex and evolutionary than their demonized reputations suggest. The hosts encourage listeners to deconstruct the inherited rules, fears, and assumptions handed down by society and religion, pointing out that most of these "rules" are human-made constructs. By examining origins, cultural context, and personal conditioning, they argue that fear of entities like Asmodeus often reflects deeper fears of facing inner work, confronting imbalance, and stepping out of survival mode.

Meretricious – attractive on the surface, but having in reality no value or substance

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Season One (Ep19) This week's episode Lunch Time with Demons explores the importance of self-care, intuition, and slowing down within spiritual practice especially when life becomes overwhelming. Ryan reflects on having to host alone due to Bella's illness, and how the situation became a lesson in listening to the body, honoring personal limits, and working with the Divine through flow rather than force. He emphasizes that spiritual growth isn't about constant output or striving, but about letting yourself rest, receive, and recognize your own needs as sacred. By placing the self—not obligation—at the center of spiritual work, one can deepen connection with the Divine and maintain genuine balance.

The episode also expands into the transformative power of everyday human interactions. Ryan shares a profound encounter with a stranger who, like many others he meets, opened up about life changes, fulfillment, and the courage to begin again. These moments illustrate how quickly meaningful connection can unfold and how the Divine often moves through ordinary conversations. Ryan closes by reflecting on change, the value of life as an ongoing experiment, and the magic that emerges when we pause, pay attention, and allow both life and the infernal beings he works with to guide the journey.

In this week's episode Abella gives us a card pull for the week. we explore a theme that many of us overlook: how we spend our energy. The cards asked us to take an honest look at where our focus is going, and whether those places are actually aligned with our inner peace and long-term goals.

This episode is a reminder that energy is not unlimited. When we invest in people, projects, and emotions that don't support our growth, we delay our own progress. Together, we talk about redirecting energy with intention, choosing what truly nourishes us, and making space for what we want to create.

If you've been feeling stretched thin or disconnected from yourself, this conversation will help you recalibrate and reclaim your energy.

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Season One (Ep18) This week we dive deep into the tension between traditionalism and modernization in religion and the occult. We discuss how spiritual evolution often clashes with conservative mindsets, both in mainstream faiths and within alternative spiritual communities. We critique the growing dogmatism seen online, where practitioners police each other's beliefs, mirroring the same authoritarian tendencies they once sought freedom from. Through personal experiences, we explore how social media has amplified spiritual conflict and argue that true spirituality allows space for individual growth, experimentation, and questioning without shame or hierarchy. The conversation evolves into a passionate exploration of modernization as the natural heartbeat of spirituality. We trace this lineage through occult history from Renaissance magicians like John Dee and Aleister Crowley to the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn showing how every era reinterprets spiritual practice through its own lens. Weemphasize that modernization doesn't mean rejecting tradition but expanding upon it, honoring the roots while allowing the branches to grow.

Propaedeutic -adjective (of an area of study) serving as a preliminary instruction or as an introduction to further study. Noun -an introduction to a subject or area of study

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Season one (Ep17) This week's episode delves into Halloween's historical, occult, and societal origins rooted in the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain. We explore how the modern, commercialized holiday began as a sacred time when the veil between the physical and spiritual worlds was believed to be at its thinnest. From this belief enduring traditions emerged: wearing costumes to hide from wandering spirits, leaving food offerings to protect the home, and lighting bonfires for purification and safety.

We trace the evolution of trick-or-treating back to the medieval custom of souling, when the poor would offer prayers in exchange for food. The conversation then expands into cultural commentary on how traditional symbols—like the witch's pointed hat and cauldron—were demonized through patriarchal and capitalist propaganda that pushed women out of the medieval brewing trade. Drawing connections between souling and today's world, we discuss modern issues of food insecurity, encouraging listeners to support local food banks and community aid programs. The episode closes on a playful note with personal Halloween memories and lighthearted complaints about the ultimate trick-or-treating disappointment: getting toothpaste instead of candy.

The word is "Longevity" we pronounce the letter g twice in it

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Season one (Ep16) We discuss control, prompted by Abella's personal experience recovering from surgery and feeling physically limited. We reflect on how control or the lack thereof affects not only external circumstances but also emotional regulation, accountability, and the ability to adapt when life shifts unexpectedly. The discussion reveals how easily control can dominate one's mindset, shaping reactions and perceptions, often rooted in the desire for safety and stability. As the conversation unfolds, they connect this theme to daily life, spiritual work, and the ongoing process of self-evolution. Through anecdotes, including a humorous story about a misplaced trash can, they illustrate how minor disruptions challenge habitual patterns and provide opportunities for growth. The hosts ultimately frame control as both a necessary grounding force and a potential obstacle to transformation, encouraging listeners to examine their relationship with it as part of their spiritual and psychological healing journey.

Opia - the striking intensity of direct eye contact, which feels both intimate and unsettling

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In this episode Ryan walks you through a meditation with Satan to guide you find something you have lost in your journey it is filled ambient sounds to help our listeners fully immerse within the meditation.

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Season one (Ep15) This week we have a brief chat after Abella's surgery as part update and talk about her team of the infernal divine that showed up to support her in this time of needed support for the surgery. The game that the surgeon was speaking to Bella about is "Cult of the Lamb". Thank you for joining Abella and I for this chat.

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