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And I ask Peter and Matt a question that's been hotly debated in British boxing over the last week or so.

How much can we reasonably expect fighters to give in the ring?

How far through the pain barrier can we really demand that they push themselves in pursuit of victory?

It was  fascinating to listen to their take on what is a complex issue.

And we talked a bit of Joshua vs Pulev and of course Hughie Fury vs Mariusz Wach.

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