It's an unofficial "It Ain't Ogre 'Til It's Ogre" podcast reunion! Special guests Matt Serafini and Chris Sheridan join us this week to discuss Madame Web, starring Dakota Johnson. We delve into the broader multiverse of Sony's Spider-Manmovies and its unholy trinity of "villain movies." Who is Madame Web? What's going on with that ADR? How did this movie actually happen? What are we doing with our lives?!

Madame Web opened in theaters on February 14. It was directed by S.J. Clarkson and the cast also includes Sydney Sweeney, Isabela Merced, Celeste O'Connor, Tahar Rahim, Mike Epps, Emma Roberts, and Adam Scott.

Our intro music this week is “Tarantino Margarita” by l'eupe.

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Discussion Points: 

• It Ain't Ogre 'Til It's Ogre really is over! We promise!
• Sony's plan with Venom, Morbius, and Madame Web, and Kraven and blah blah blah.
• The role of Cassie Webb as a plot device character in the comics
• The marketing was misleading!
• Dakota Johnson's disastrously great press tour for this movie
• The plot and the plot holes, the lack of effort, the lack of everything
• Enjoying this movie unironically?
• Sony's attempts at creating a cinematic universe with its superhero movies have been...
• What's next for Sony and Columbia Pictures at this point?
• The Rotten Tomatoes Game: what do critics and audiences think?

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