In this epsiode we welcome Frank Meeink, the author of the book that inspired this podcast. Join us as we dive into Frank's powerful story of transformation, exploring how his experiences with white nationalism intersect with contemporary American politics and policing. We candidly discuss the systemic flaws within the American police force, as well as religion, addiction, and recovery. Tune in for an insightful conversation that challenges our perceptions and encourages deeper understanding.

In this episode we welcome back our guest from Episode 1 to dive deeper into his journey after spending two decades in prison. Join us as we explore the challenges of reintegration, the emotional weight of experiencing life's "firsts" again, and the social consequences that linger long after release. We also tackle the complexities of the death penalty and talk conjugal visits. This candid conversation offers a unique perspective on the realities of incarceration and the road to redemption.

In this episode we are joined by a guest who was part of the skinhead/white supremacy movement of the late 80's and early 90's. We talk about the events that led to 20 years in prison, life in prison and life after prison.