Zac and Phil discuss the current challenges Magic: The Gathering faces in onboarding new players, particularly through the lens of its evolving game design and community engagement. They explore historical methods of teaching the game, the impact of Commander on gameplay, and the necessity of effective onboarding strategies to attract and retain new players. The discussion emphasizes the importance of community and personal interaction in the learning process, as well as the need for Wizards of the Coast to adapt their approach to better serve new players.