Guest Margaret Cunningham from Forcepoint talks with Dave about cognitive biases that lead to reasoning errors in cybersecurity, Joe shares some follow-up from a listener named Alex about the Alexa phone call Joe mentioned a few episodes back, Dave shares a note from listener Brandon about finding similar DNS names (check out https://dnstwister.report/), Dave's story is about dark patterns to get you to do something on a website, Joe shares a story phishing emails and defenses against them, and our Catch of the Day comes from a listener named Big Mike about an old time radio podcast he heard recently with great examples of social engineering.

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