Are the apps on your phone "sticky?" Do you find yourself going back to a certain app again and again every waking hour? when did you last have an actual conversation on your phone? Our guest today is here to help us unpack some of these questions and introduce us to a phone that us making tech human again. Joe Hollier is the co founder of the Light phone. From their website it is a phone to be used as little as possible.Things we discuss on the podcast : Making tech humane ag...