Now the footy finals are upon us, it’s a good opportunity to talk about how you get the best out of your team under pressure? Does straight talking work? Do you need a locker to rumble against when Fairwork Australia aren’t watching? How do you keep your nerves under control when it’s a win or lose situation. An episode not for the faint hearted.

On the bye weekend, Mick is grumpy and it’s L’s job to unpack what it is that’s causing him to cover his face in Despair in the Coaches Box. And the answer is.... September... the Pavlovian rush of the finals series, the frustration of the bye, meaningless football cliches and Chris Fagins chances as a newbie coach in the eight. How many teams should a master coach have links to in the Finals? As L points out, if Mick were an IVF donor they’d make him stop.

In this episode Mick gives his health and fitness tips for men; Elle explores the concept of forgiveness in the light of Mick's many grudges and these two polar opposites dissect Elle’s experience playing womens masters footy. In foreign affairs Mick decides to bench both Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un

Elle schools Mick in the politics of the handshake, the pair indulge in Postive visualisation and answer questions about the qualities of the ideal coach. Mick reveals his infatuation with Margaret Thatcher & Elle offers to introduce him to Ita.

He’s the AFL Hall of Famer and triple premiership coach. She’s the Health and Wellness coach for the #flawedandoptimistic.

The only language they have in common is Footy!

To Coach or Not To Coach? : That is the Question. As Mick and Elle settle into the Coaches Box, the conversation turns to coaching comebacks and little silver bullets, white line fever, kids and gender,  judging people by their drinks and what it means to lead and be part of the team.