Hey Black Love Fam! Today we've got another favorite for you. He's a producer, a filmmaker, a dad of two, a former football player and Super Bowl Champion and so much more, Spencer Paysinger! David and Spencer dive into what masculinity looks like for him, and if that's changed over the years. Plus the last time these two spoke Spencer was getting ready to start therapy, and he shares what a year of that has looked like. The two also chat about how much his identity in football has manifested differently in his current life. 

If you liked going Man to Man with Spencer, make sure you check him out @pysngr on IG and Twitter. Plus make sure you tell another king, or queen about the show so we can keep spreading the message. Don't forget to follow the podcast so you never miss a new episode, and give us that 5 star rating so other people know what's up!

Have suggestions on who David should go Man to Man with next? Connect with him @wasicki 

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