Many Ways Home

Finally sharing this conversation I had with Wayne all the way back in March. Wayne, his wife, and their two kiddos (10 & 8) are currently living in Guatemala but are worldschoolers who have been bopping all over since 2019: Mexico, Canada, Bali, Thailand, Malaysia, Costa Rica…with Europe on the radar for next year.

We cover a lot of ground in this conversation - everything from why Wayne was in a mediation course as an economics major (how we met), to why he and his wife started thinking about homeschooling, the logistics of worldschooling (financially and emotionally, including maneuvering through the legal requirements of each country, finding community, learning in pockets of time, and instagram vs. reality)…but arguably my favorite parts of the convo are Wayne’s core philosophies behind it all, like the importance of developing abstract thinking (ie: being in relationship with the stuff you can’t see)… lots of peace studies crossover :)

You can also watch the convo here.

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Ooookayyy. The time has come 😅 I’m rounding out season one, and turning the tables on myself. Life pre-kids/how homeschooling became a thing for us/what I love/what’s hard/ya knowwww. This is the only episode that is not also watchable on YouTube cuz that would have been REAL weird. So, enjoy the audio only :)

And then this little podcast is taking a summer hiatus! I’ll still be writing here on the stack, but season 2 won’t kick off until September, likely. Please subscribe, share, and holler if ya wanna have a conversation. Maybe you don’t homeschool, or you’re anti-homeschool…that could be interesting too 👀

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Resources shared:

Home rhythms - my previous writing on this topic

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This conversation is near and dear to my heart - my bestie! Liz lives in Minneapolis and has two girls, 10 & 7. We’ve only shared physical space one time, but we talk just about every day in some form or other. She’s a magical human and I feel super grateful to be on this big blue planet at the same time as her; not to mention, homeschooling and parenting alongside, too.

We cover everything from pandemic kindergarten to rhythm in the early years, the magic of getting to learn how kids learn, the spiritual hyper-drive of homeschooling, listening as community support (vs. advice giving), and much more.

Enjoy ☺️

Resources shared >

Pinwheels

Fran Liberatore

If you’re in Minne, too - yoga with Liz

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This week’s convo is with my friend Jo, who is a mom to two (8 and 5) and who was homeschooled herself, from start to finish. She gives honest insights into her experience, and how, in many ways, it taught her ahead of time what she “didn’t want to do.” We also chat the image of homeschooling today, the mindset of “constant adjusting,” some of the pressures felt being a homeschooling parent, and much more.

I will say, it was interesting to listen to this again in prep for posting it (several months after we recorded) because our back and forth about what you give up to homeschool, and the reality of not being able to do it all…really resonated with me at the current juncture I find myself in. Just goes to show that the constant adjusting that we are doing with our kids is constant adjusting in ourselves, too.

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Resources shared >

All About Spelling

This didn’t come up but, Jo has an Etsy shop!

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Sharing a convo with my virtual bud Meg this week. Meg and I have known each other since 2019, but have never met in-person. She lives in Vermont and has three kiddos: a sophomore in college, a junior in high school, and a six year old. She’s the first person I’ve interviewed who a) doesn’t live in Colorado and b) has older kids, so I’ve been excited to share, because she’s done the thing, is doing the thing, and her story is a reminder that you can’t predict the path. Also: all of it is temporary and fleeting; a window of time you can’t get back.She speaks to the winding road between public school, homeschool, public school, college, and homeschool hybrids…echoing some of what Amanda (ep. 9) shared: that one of the gifts of homeschool is that her older kids had a solid sense of self by the teen years. “They knew who they were, they know who they are.” And I gotta pull this quote, too:

“Part of that betrayal was my own, like I was learning in real time that the idea that I had had that someone other than myself and Chris were responsible for our children’s education….that that was never actually true to begin with. It was just an idea that I had absorbed through the culture.”

Oof.

It’s so good, Meg is so easy to talk (and listen) to, and I find her perspective a breath of fresh air.

Thanks for listening 💫

Resources shared >

Orton Gillingham

Singapore Math

Mathhelp.com

Brave Writer

Meg’s substack and website

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Sharing my conversation with Tiffany this week, who is homeschooling her 9 year old. I love a lot of things about this convo, but one of which is the way Tiffany describes homeschooling….as something that is creative, technical, philosophical, humbling. A multi-layered project. She talks about the relationship with her daughter as the most important thing (“8-10 more years of orbiting her center”😭) and shares candidly about their “re-upping” moments.

We talk introversion (and the polarity of that with an extroverted kiddo), she shares some of their sweet practices (Morning basket, Mail Mondays, beginning & end of year letters, Yule School…) and she also talks about her experience of being a “gifted and talented kid” and the ways in which that, ultimately, didn’t serve her. This is also the first convo that dives a little bit more into the homeschooling requirements in CO, specifically the third grade test requirements.

Also - I said I would circle back at the end to the topic of Tiffany not driving and then I never did lol. BUT I did circle back via text. Her response:

“So, I never learned to drive. Never had a license. The way I think about it is this: friction is a tool. It’s not always a bad thing. If I want to adopt a new behavior, I try to remove any friction between me and doing the thing that I want me to do. If I want to discourage a behavior, then adding friction makes it harder to do the thing that I might be tempted to do but do not want to do. Choosing not to drive aligns with my values. It’s one of the ways I care for the environment. I prefer the pace of life. It has a way of slowing things down. Traveling on foot, by bus, or bike, just offers a different view of being in the world. As a homeschooler, it can limit what we choose to do. But, if it is super important, we make it happen. Values-aligned self-imposed limits help you get real clear on what matters and inspires you to get creative. I love not running around. I love that it forces me to invest in the relationships I have with the people who live on my street. I love interacting with people on the bus whom I would otherwise never be in the same space with. I love walking or riding the bike and taking in my surroundings. I can feel the breeze, the heat of the sun, the scent of the lilacs if I am riding by some bushes. More specifically, with homeschooling, I have to say no to a lot of amazing wonderful opportunities. As a parent, you want them to have every and all opportunities. But the best anyone can do in life is have a portfolio of experiences. We can’t have and do it all. And it all comes back to the quality of our time. I give myself permission to not try to give my kiddo everything.”

I admit, I totally romanticize this decision and often think about how different community is, now…when we’re driving 30 minutes to find it vs. committing to our neighborhood. I imagine there are many challenges to it, too (it’s also, on a practical level, part of the reason Tiffany and I don’t see each other as much) but I agree with all her reasons for not doing it and wish, every day, that our country had infrastructure like Japan lol. Why don’t we have more trains, Americaaa?! To me, it’s also a valuable perspective and practice to add into the mix because it does actively fight against so much of what I think many modern parents struggle with…which is the pressure of running & doing, despite believing in the importance of slowing down and helping our kids see that their worth is not tied to their doing.

Anyway - it’s another good one :) Enjoy.

Resources shared >

Life Ways - Waldorf Early Childhood Certification

Montessori, Reggio Emilia, Tools of the Mind, John Dewey and the Chicago School, John Gatto, Charlotte Mason *

Night Zookeeper (Gamified Language Arts)

Homeschool requirements in CO

Stanford 10

Homeschool Boss - NWEA Map Growth

*Note: I get a little kickback from books purchased through those bookshop links

Tiffany writes on substack, too!

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This week’s conversation is with my friend Amanda, who is also my fellow Wisconsinite/artist/mindful entrepreneur/dreamer/enneagram 4. She’s my slice of Wisco here in the mountains and I’m super grateful for her presence in my life. Her kids are 8 and 4.

Amanda is the first person I’m interviewing who was homeschooled herself, and who also had an abrupt transition out of homeschool (not by choice), so she carries a deep, unique perspective with her. We talk about her experience, how it informs the experience she’s building for her kids, life as learning, dimmed lights, theory vs. practice, how “the way we do one thing is the way we do everything” and so much more.

So many gems in this one that I’m carrying forward. A gift that keeps on giving.

Resources shared >

Learn more about Amanda’s work as a life coach via her website

Unschooled by Kerry McDonald*

Teaching from Rest by Sarah Mackenzie* - neither Amanda or I have read this but it’s a Lauren rec that comes up in our convo :)

*Note - I get a little kickback if you decide to buy books

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This week is with my friend Abbey, whose kiddos are 7 and 4. We name this in the episode but, the reality with literally every episode so far is we’re all rookies y’all 😅 And quite frankly, I think that’s a super-power for our Colorado crew at the moment. We don’t need to take ourselves so seriously (she said to herself…again and again, in all areas of life). Abbey spoke to how easy it is to lose sight of the why, which I could relate to. For example, many of us were drawn to homeschooling, at least in part, because of the flexibility, and in the early years, the ability to keep the wonder, not put so much pressure on, etc. And yet, I think every mom so far has described the pressure and found themselves adding it, putting it on, etc. without meaning to.

We went down a couple rabbit holes, like how philosophies have infiltrated parenting and homeschooling, but also how sometimes those philosophies get watered down and become more of an aesthetic than a rooted practice….and about the busy-ness of homeschool vs. what Abbey dreamily described as “real home homeschooling” 😆 ☠️. For the introverts among us. None a’ that FAKE COMMUNITY STUFF lol.

Abbey went from being the person who was like, “what a cool thing, but that’s not my thing” to it being her thing! And as is the case with all of these so far, I feel like we cover a lot of ground. Thanks for listening <3

Resources shared >

I gave a quick little shout to Outschool

And Abbey mentioned Khan Academy

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Evelyn has four boys, and at the time of recording this (January) they were 20 months, almost 3, almost 6, and 8 so…are happy birthdays in order Evelyn?! 😅 We talk everything from Wild + Free (which I clearly forgot I ever co-led lol), to her moving from Colombia to Texas at age 13 and teaching herself English, to the realities of homeschooling multiple kiddos, patience, what we value vs. what we’ve been taught to value, taking it one day at a time, and so much more.

I’ll also say, Evelyn works full time in addition to homeschooling and I feel like I need to have a whole ‘nother interview with her to dive into that, specifically. As someone who works part time, and feels stretched in so many different directions, I was curious how she handled it all.

Her words:

“How do I do it? Honestly, it rarely looks as put-together as it sounds.

I’m a homeschool mom and I work full time, which means my days are a constant weaving of roles rather than neatly separated blocks. I’m grateful—deeply—that my job is remote and my team is flexible. That flexibility is what makes this life possible. But it doesn’t make it easy.

What it actually looks like is early mornings with coffee and a mental checklist already running. It’s jumping between math lessons and Slack messages, reading aloud one minute and replying to emails the next. It’s planning school around meetings, and planning meetings around the parts of the day when my kids are most independent—or at least occupied.

There are a lot of “in between” moments. Work squeezed into nap times, quiet reading time, or the rare stretch when everyone is focused. And then there are the evenings—where I pick up what didn’t fit into the day, trading rest for catching up. Some nights feel productive, others just feel long.

The hardest part isn’t the logistics—it’s the tension. When I’m in meetings, I feel the pull of not being fully present with my kids. When I’m deep in homeschooling, there’s a quiet awareness of what’s waiting for me at work. There’s guilt in both directions, even though I know I’m showing up in meaningful ways for both my family and my job.

But it’s also full of small, grounding moments. Being there for a question, a breakthrough, a story in the middle of the day. Building a life that, while messy and stretched, is intentionally close.

I don’t do it perfectly. I do it by adjusting constantly, by letting some things be “good enough,” and by reminding myself why we chose this in the first place. It’s a rhythm that shifts daily—sometimes hourly—but it’s ours, and we’re making it work the best we can.”

I could reaaaaally relate to this. The weaving of roles, all the in between moments, pockets of days, long nights, etc. And the guilt. I often feel bad that I can’t seem to stop working, even though I chose this path. Homeschooling and being with my kids is what I love most, but I also like using other parts of my brain and being of service in other ways. And, quite frankly, we live in an expensive place. And we love traveling, and giving our kids experiences that cost money. And then there’s just like… gas and groceries. So even though I don’t make nearly as much as my partner, I know my financial contributions matter, and I’m proud to be able to contribute in that way.

I think it’s assumed that people who homeschool must give up career pursuits to do it, or that it only works if there’s a partner who’s a bread winner so that the other person can stay home and not work. There are a lot of factors. And we are privileged. And also, some of us keep working! Both because we want to, and because we have to.

Meanwhile, there is a quiet (and sometimes not-so-quiet) narrative that’s like: if you choose homeschooling, it should be your whole identity. Or: if you’re working, something must be getting shortchanged. And especially for women, it often becomes: you should be able to do it all, but also feel peaceful while doing it. And if you aren’t picture perfect calm 100% of the time, then something’s wrong. (And maybe that’s true some of the time, but also…maybe there are just seasons where it’s a lot. What happens when we let that be okay, without feeling the need to scrap everything?)

The reality is it’s not easy. And there are sacrifices. And stress. And pressure (from myself and society) and sometimes impossible expectations. For me it was meaningful to talk to someone who, despite all those things, seems to agree that she wouldn’t have it any other way. Finally a voice that’s like… yes it’s hard, to balance homeschooling and career, but also here’s what it gives back. And you’re not a bad person, for wanting both.

Resources from this episode >

Wild + Free - (Another thing Lauren conned me into doing was co-leading a Wild + Free group that she took over 😅 We left being officially W+F and are now just planning things for our community.)

The Call of the Wild + Free*

Hunt, Gather, Parent*

The Coddling of the American Mind*

The Good and the Beautiful - math and language arts

Tapping. + a video.

And finally - those beloved transformer toys* 😂 . (We don’t have the exact same ones, but we have these and these which are a similar concept and also very loved.)

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Chaz is a mom of three (ages 7, 5, and 18 months). Our conversation covers everything from balancing work and motherhood during COVID to following her intuition through birth and into homeschooling. We talk about her values - slow, secular, nature-based- and how to stay grounded in those values in a fast paced world.

I appreciated Chaz’s vulnerability in this conversation, and got the sense that she is often checking in with herself, re-evaluating whether her life actually reflects what she values or not, which felt deeply relatable. Like if you say you want to slow down, but you’re driving more than you’ve ever driven in your life, are you doing it?

I think there can be a tendency to overcommit in homeschool circles, in part because our kids have wide-open days, and we feel a responsibility to fill them with enriching experiences - to expose them to as much as we can. Every year as my kids get older, I feel this pressure to “ramp things up”…yet that instinct runs completely counter to why I chose homeschooling in the first place, which had nothing to do with how much we accomplish in a day and everything to do with having time and space together. That said, Colorado is currently a very homeschool friendly state, and I think we’d all rather live in the need-to-dial-back vs. the opposite, where there is no community and no outside support.

I’m still chewing on a lot from this convo; I hope you enjoy it.

Resources from Chaz >

Wild & Free - an online homeschool community with in-person groups worldwide

Ina May Gaskin’s Guide to Childbirth *

Blossom & Root - the main curriculum they follow

*note - I get a little kickback from books purchased through this link

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