When it comes to ethics and ethical behaviour and the stunningly minor penalties for ethics violations for ignoring of ethics from the PM down to the occupants of the very back benches in parliament what is the story?  A former Liberal MP shares with us that not only was there (for her) the demand of unethical behaviour, but as well there were in 2007 significant penalties if that demand was not adhered to by the MP. - As well, our guest's husband was present when coaching on violating ethics took place. 

Guest: Michelle Simson, former Liberal MP 

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