Nov 28, 2025
Matthew Miller led a discussion with Kenneth Taylor, Jennifer Grunig, Carol Lee, and Tamara Blue on the son of perdition, initially confirming Judas as the first and the "man of sin" or "false prophet" as the one yet to come, and challenging mainstream clergy views by suggesting this figure comes from within the church. Miller detailed the scriptural references in John 17:12 and 2 Thessalonians 2, and introduced a third, less-known reference in the Greek Septuagint translation of Proverbs 24, where analysis of the Greek words suggests "the Word (Logos) keeps the son of perdition outside," connecting it to the concept of the restrainer in 2 Thessalonians. The participants explored the meaning of the Greek words for "perdition" and "restraint," confirming that the discussion revolved around the restraining of the "son of perdition" and the "mystery of lawlessness" as referenced in Proverbs 22 of the Septuagint.