In Episode 6, We are joined by Margaret Jacobsen, or MJ (they/them), who is a dear friend, parent, community leader, educator, and one of the most loving people we know. We explore some deeply personal topics with humor and heart. MJ tells it like it is.

Join us as we dive into a meandering discussion that intersects with psychedelic healing: raising biracial children, unconventional parenting, postpartum depression, the importance of self-care and therapy, being a voice for the Black community, and a bunch of fun and serious tidbits in between.

This is a powerful and important episode. We invite listeners who are new to listening to Black voices and perspectives to set an intention to truly hear what is being expressed. We can begin to heal when we return to a heart-centered way of relating: honoring our shared humanity, listening with intent to understand, and validating lived experiences that are different from our own.  What's in this episode:

Getting to know MJ (3:43)

Being Black in Oregon and love for the outdoors (4:42)

Unconventional parenting and being open with our children about racism (7:10)

Growing up within religion (12:48)

Raising kids and are playdates all that great? (13:22)

Taking other people’s advice on raising children (15:15)

MJ’s journey through postpartum depression and their experience with talk therapy (16:06)

Stigma within the church toward therapy and psychedelics (19:05)

Why self-care is so important (21:19)

MJ’s spiritual insurance policy and what we want Heaven to be like (23:28)

Psychedelics in the Black community (25:54)

Voodoo and witches (32:15)

The unfair treatment of Black folks within legal cannabis (34:09)

The power of pleasure and self worship (38:29)

MJ’s dreamy dream (42:45)

Interesting hobbies and passions (45:21)

What does healing mean to you? (47:39)

This episode is not to be missed. Huge thank you to the wonderful Margaret Jacobsen for joining us. Follow them on Instagram at @margejacobsen.

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-Elan & Becca