We talk about Mario! For like five minutes. And then we start talking about whether or not video games are art. At 25 minutes, Isaac drops some HOT TAKES. And then throughout the rest of the conversation, things get HEATED and FIERY, and nothing actually gets resolves whatsoever during the time of this episode. Luckily, the debate is hypothetically never over, and there are no right answers. Are you ready for some serious discussion about the eighties and video games, and these hot modern topics? Join Josiah, Kim and Isaac today!