Heather's guest this week is award-winning author and podcast host Mark Gober. After Heather reads Mark, who shares his journey to writing his book "An End To Upside Down Thinking", they delve into the science behind psychics, mediumship and the collective consciousness and Heather shares how these theories connect to her own life and experiences.

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