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In this episode of The MLO Project, Frazier and Michael welcome a special guest—Michael’s wife and business partner, Kimberlee McAllister—for a candid, funny, and insightful conversation about building a business and a marriage at the same time.

Together, they unpack what it’s like running Empower LO, navigating roles, boundaries, and balancing life in the fast-paced mortgage world. With backgrounds in both mortgage and real estate, Michael and Kimberlee share what’s worked, what’s flopped, and why communication and shared vision are non-negotiables.

And yes, you’ll hear about that Benihana night—because behind every strong couple in business is a hilarious story that keeps them grounded.

Hit play for real talk on love, leadership, and building something that lasts—together.

00:00 Introduction and Welcoming the Guest
01:06 Introducing Kimberlee McAllister
02:14 Discussing Family Dynamics in the Mortgage Industry
06:17 Kimberlee’s Role at Empower
08:43 Transitioning to a Business Partnership
15:21 The Importance of Industry Experience
22:08 Empathy and Experience in Recruitment
23:03 The Challenge of Transferring Industry Knowledge
23:33 Importance of Empathy and Understanding in the Industry
25:30 Balancing Work and Personal Life
27:55 Intentional Quality Time
28:46 Economic Conditions and Partnership Dynamics
33:50 Working with Family vs. Spouse
36:29 The 'No Reservations' Story
40:32 Final Thoughts and Farewell

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