Martha Burtis (@mburtis) is Learning‌ ‌and‌ ‌Teaching‌ ‌Developer‌ ‌in‌ ‌the‌ ‌Open‌ ‌Co‌ ‌Lab‌ ‌at‌ ‌Plymouth‌ ‌State.‌ She has been central to the development of absolutely legendary digital learning projects like ds106 and Domain of One's Own. We chat about student centred agency, pedagogy, hairless cats, and more!