Mary Lucas, the CTO for Supplemental Health Care and Cindy Ballard, the CHRO for ICM Partners joined Chris on TalentTalk to discuss their strategies for leadership and talent management.

Mary talks about the importance of "comeback sauce" and also shares how important it is to be diligent in ones career in order to move up the "corporate ladder." She also notes the importance of people having their "champions."

Cindy talks about what it's like to attract and grow diverse talent, and how her organization is taking steps to ensure inclusion. She also shares about how the MeToo movement has changed the shape of the understanding of HR, and how HR needs to be better understood.