Today we sit down with Debra Fine, bestselling author of The Fine Art of Small talk.

Debra brings her wealth of knowledge and solutions, to addressing some of the pain points she's faced with small talk as a former engineer like initiating conversations, and how to gracefully exit them.

By the end of this podcast, you'll walk away having gained tips and techniques you can implement today, like the subtle yet powerful art of using someone's name, how to build meaningful connections the smart way and more!