After exploring longing and disconnection in Exile, hosts Paige Sutula and Lauren Skuba return with an all-new episode of Love in Lyrics, this time unraveling the layered confessions in Taylor Swift’s “Mastermind.” Through the lens of Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT), Paige and Lauren dig into the complexities of control, perfectionism, and the deep vulnerability underneath our efforts to “get it right” in relationships. What happens when we try to engineer love to avoid the fear of rejection? How do childhood wounds shape the parts of us that plan, scheme, and strategize for connection?

In this episode, they explore how control can serve as a protective strategy, especially for those who’ve internalized the belief that their authentic self might not be enough to be chosen. With insight and warmth, they unpack how therapy can help people shift from managing love to experiencing it—messy, mutual, and real.

For more information about Lauren and Paige, please visit their websites:

Lauren Skuba, MA, LMFT

www.positivespace-therapy.com

Paige Sutula, MA, MFTC

www.rockymountainrelationaltherapy.com/paige-sutula