Navigating the changing education landscape and the growing role of business in schools.

Richard Cornish was a School Principal who has transitioned to consulting and is on a mission to help leaders connect with people in their care.

In this conversation Richard and Dylan discuss topics such as, the role of the principal as a CEO, acknowledging the classroom teacher, the purpose of education and much, much more.

(1:05) Early Context and Education

(6:21) Early Learnings as an Educator

(9:27) The Art of Give and Take

(11:09) Are Students Who Don't Meet The Bar Well Served?

(11:40) Your Evolution With Data As An Educator

(14:28) Acknowledging The Classroom Teacher

(18:06) Hierarchy And Tension In Education

(20:33) Principles As A Leader

(25:39) What Problem Are You Trying To Solve?

(27:19) The Decision To Transition From Principal To Consultant

(28:42) Why Are People Going To Listen to Me?

(29:14) The Position At The Top Is The Most Lonely

(31:12) What Keeps Principals Up At Night?

(32:03) The Role Of A Principal As A CEO. Schools Are Businesses

(34:09) The Abrupt Transition From Teacher To CEO

(36:42) Non-Education Background Principals. Navigating The Relationship Between Business and Teaching

(44:11) Asking Why Do We Do What We Do

(46:52) Overhauling The System

(48:19) What's The Purpose Of Education?

(50:44) The Role AI In The Current Precipice

(53:56) What's Going To Stay The Same In The Next Ten Years?

(56:42) How Do You Get Student's To Recognise The Importance of Education?

(59:20) What Is Keeping You Up At Night?

Helping young people on their pathway to purpose and creating an educational experience with more care.

Kim Cohen is the Head of Indie School Brisbane CBD and has had a rich career in educational leadership.

In this conversation Kim and Dylan discuss topics such as, stepping into leadership, defining success as an educator, the growing workload of teachers, and much, much more.

(00:00) Introduction

(01:05) Early Context

(06:21) What Were You Like As A Student?

(07:48) Why Did You Become A Teacher?

(08:20) Early Years as An Educator

(11:06) South Africa to Australia

(12:24) Falling Into Educational Leadership

(18:37) Biggest Growing Points

(20:02) What Is Your Why?

(21:56) How Do You Define Success?

(25:33) So Much More Is Being Put Onto Teachers

(26:41) Educating Parents

(30:09) The Job Is Getting Bigger

(33:45) Sexism in Education

(36:37) Move to Special Assistance Schools

(42:50) What Are You Good At?

(44:56) The Role of A Principal Is That Of A CEO

(47:10) Importance of Mentors and Advisors

(48:39) Helpful Words From Kim Now To Kim Then

(50:12) What’s Not Going To Change In Education? Jeff Bezos Framework

(53:06) Kim’s Advice To The Previous Guest

(56:43) Kim’s Question For The Next Guest

Building students with character, not students who can take tests.

Yi Han went from Ds to Dux at one of the best schools in Australia. She's now advocating AGAINST what got her there. Instead, she's teaching how to achieve more with less time and has mentored thousands of students on her secret method.

In this conversation, Yi and Dylan discuss topics such as meta learning, why schools are doing the opposite of what students need and how young people can find hope in a world that is getting more and more hopeless.

(00:00) Introduction

(00:50) Early context

(07:10) I was so average

(09:01) Where was the shift?

(17:13) What do you advocate for?

(20:22) Education as transformation

(22:57) Learning how to learn. What falls under that umbrella?

(28:25) How you can improve how you learn

(32:46) What are schools getting wrong?

(34:19) What are schools supposed to do?

(36:42) Education should be narrowing the gap between social classes

(38:54) Developing young people who can take tests rather than young people who can endure life

(40:51) Brand as an analogy for schools

(42:41) Rewiring beliefs

(43:26) Push the process that creates grades

(44:39) Nothing is changing

(46:26) Why do grades dictate your worth?

(47:16) Metrics vs indicators

(47:40) What’s next for Yi?

(51:04) Do you have doubts?

(56:42) What’s your biggest problem right now?