This conversation explores the current debate about consumers buying scarce matcha powder and mixing it with milk. On one side of the spectrum "let consumers do what they want" and on the other side "consumers are destroying the subtly and nuance that makes high quality matcha incredibly unique". The hosts discuss the ongoing matcha shortage, the implications of the 'ceremonial grade' label, and the evolving landscape of matcha culture as it becomes more mainstream.

Special thanks to Monique from Matcha Moments based in the Philippines, Marc from Ooika based in the US, Cole from My Matcha Addiction based in the US, and Bryan from Matsu Matcha based in Singapore for their perspectives in this episode.