Do the Packers have a soft culture problem?

In this hour of Jen, Gabe & Chewy, the crew questions whether Matt LaFleur’s leadership style and standards are strong enough for a team that keeps getting pushed around in big moments. They revisit the now-infamous clip of Jordan Love getting his face shoved into the turf with almost no reaction from his offensive line, and ask if that’s on the players, the coach, or both.

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Chewy compares LaFleur’s approach to Mike Holmgren’s old-school edge, telling stories about being told to go after Deion Sanders on the first play of a game – and why intimidation and accountability are still part of winning football. The “Standards Over Feelings” slogan on the wall gets put under the microscope, with questions about:

Letting a non-captain run to midfield pregame with no consequences

Repeated personal fouls from Keyshawn Nixon

Visible loafing from certain defenders

Whether LaFleur truly enforces the standards he preaches

From there, the conversation pivots to Milwaukee and the Bucks, where things are just as tense.

The crew reacts to Bucks fans booing at Fiserv Forum during a blowout home loss to the Timberwolves (without Anthony Edwards or Rudy Gobert), and Giannis Antetokounmpo literally booing back at the crowd, complete with thumbs-down. They debate:

Is it fair for fans to boo when effort clearly isn’t there?

Did Giannis misread the boos as being aimed at him personally?

Should a franchise star ever boo his own fan base, even in frustration?

What it says when Giannis calls out effort, while Doc Rivers talks about “tired legs”

To close the hour, they dive into a sobering nugget from ESPN’s rookie class rankings:

The Packers’ 2025 rookie group graded 29th in the NFL on “snap index” and production.

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The crew breaks down:

Why Anthony Belton is basically the only consistent contributor so far

How little we really saw of Matthew Golden, Colin Oliver and others

Whether this is an indictment of Brian Gutekunst and the scouting approach

Why, with limited cap space and multiple roster holes, next year’s draft class has to hit

They also note the contrast with Chicago’s rookie class ranking 7th, and how the Bears made immediate use of their picks while Green Bay played a longer game.

It all adds up to one big question for Packers and Wisconsin sports fans:

Is this just a bad stretch, or is there a deeper problem with edge, standards and talent?

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