Matt and  Joy Thayer  are filmmakers they started Speropictures in their basement. The conversation begins with Matt talking about his new documentary, State of Denial. The people are learning that the election system is rigged. The system was developed so the [DS] can cheat in the election. The people are now learning that the election are rigged and the [DS] rigging system is now unraveling. The more the people learn, the worse it gets for the [DS]. The [DS] will try to cheat again in the 2024 election, but when they learn they can’t override the number of votes Trump is getting they will then try to cancel the elections. Playbook known.