Today, I’m chatting with Joe, Matt’s best friend from university. We dive into some deep topics like best friend grief at a young age, coping mechanisms, and finding that balance between what’s expected of you and what you actually need.

We reminisce on the last 10 years and how we have created strong bonds as family and friends of Matt, and how he would find it all so funny and wholesome, I’m sure! 

We get into the pressure of doing something in the memory of a loved one, but Joe shares how he never saw him running his marathon as pressure, more just something he wanted to do. He opens up about Matt being there in spirit, cheering him on right to the finish line.

We talk about big milestones, navigating grief, and Joe’s wedding to Lucinda (another one of Matt’s best friends from Leeds), and how they invited us to feel the ‘Craggy’ spirit on the day and my god did we do Matt proud being the last ones on the dancefloor!!

Joe also shares some solid advice for young men who are grieving—encouraging them to reach out for help, lean on the people who care about them, and to just be kind to themselves during the journey.