Welcome back everyone, this one is Part 4 with Matt Nunan where he talks to us about Spiral Dynamics amongst other things.  This one was good fun, a little loose for sure however sometimes they are the best.  It ends with a mind bending conversation, look forward to that. The podcast has past 5 thousand downloads and for that I have nothing but humble appreciation, thank you so much for your time. Hope all is well, keep hustling.