Max Huber of The Swingin' Utters talks about his days as a Marine, stationed in El Paso. Then we get into how he had to convince his bandmates to sign to Fat Wreck Chords, how his heroes in the UK Subs embraced him as a young punk rocker and what it was like to see the Swingin' Utters' peers Green Day and the Offspring become household names during the Bay area punk explosion.