Zac Clark interviews vintage champion Max Gilmore about his recent success in the Vintage Championships. They discuss the intricacies of the Esper Lurrus control deck, the current state of the Vintage metagame, and various deck archetypes. Max shares insights from his tournament experience, including key plays and strategies. The conversation highlights the depth and complexity of Vintage Magic, emphasizing the importance of understanding the metagame and adapting strategies accordingly. In this conversation, Max Gilmore shares his experiences and strategies from a recent Vintage Magic: The Gathering tournament, discussing innovative deck building, matchups in the top eight, and his thrilling journey through the semifinals and finals. He reflects on the current state of Vintage, the importance of understanding opponents, and the supportive community surrounding the game.