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In this deeply moving conversation, Liv sits down with Arabella Oz, a longtime client, creative and filmmaker, to reflect on five years of working together through huge life, identity and creative shifts.
They explore what changes when a woman stops living by shoulds and begins listening to desire, how long-term mentorship supports real transformation, and what it looks like to follow a soul-led creative path even when it asks everything of you.
Arabella shares the arc from her early years of living in tension with herself, through reclaiming desire as an inner compass, to building a beautiful life, marrying her partner, leaving her therapy practice, making her first feature film, and seeing it premiere at her dream festival.
This episode is about creative courage, devotion, pacing, self-trust, spiritual leadership, and the power of staying the course.
In this episode, we explore:
Timestamps
00:00 Pre-conversation check-in and arriving together
04:31 Arabella shares the emotional context she is in personally
10:36 Setting intentions for the conversation
18:19 Official podcast introduction
19:57 Introducing Arabella and the five-year journey
23:16 How they first met and what Arabella was looking for
26:56 Who Arabella was when she first began the work
31:08 Desire as a new language and way of living
34:06 Rebuilding life through listening to the inner compass
37:11 Gentleness, permission and ending the war with yourself
41:16 The energetic and ceremonial dimensions of the work
46:22 “It would be delicious to live there”
48:02 Following desire into home, love and marriage
49:16 Leaving a therapy practice to make a film
55:58 What filmmaking asked of Arabella as a leader
58:40 Becoming the divinely led filmmaker
01:00:52 Creativity as a spiritual path
01:02:01 Returning to centre inside the film industry
01:03:53 Decision-making, self-trust and waiting for clarity
01:05:47 Confidence that is earned, not performed
01:07:52 Letting yourself be a beginner
01:08:52 Reuniting for one-to-one work after a break
01:11:51 Desire, ceremony and claiming the dream festival
01:15:42 The vulnerability of wanting something deeply
01:17:47 Group work vs one-to-one work
01:21:08 The power of long-term mentorship
01:24:30 What happens when someone knows your whole arc
01:26:00 Arabella’s message to women considering the work
01:27:27 Gentle transformation and immediate nourishment
01:28:36 Maller’s Ghost and its SXSW premiere
01:29:47 Liv reflects on seeing the finished film
01:32:54 Invitation to book a Deep Dive
01:33:56 Closing reflections on bringing creative work into the world
Mentioned in this episode
If this conversation stirred something in you and you’re navigating a threshold of your own, you can begin by booking a Deep Dive with Liv. This is a 75-minute session to map what you’re moving through, understand the patterns at pl
Containment Is Not Control
At certain stages of adulthood, structure can feel threatening.
Especially if you are competent, independent, and used to holding everything together yourself.
In this episode of Meat & Monogamy, Olivia explores the difference between rigid control and clean containment, and why high-capacity women often resist the very structures that would support them.
Inside this conversation:
• Why intelligent women can mistake containment for restriction
• The difference between control that contracts and structure that regulates
• Why some containers increase your capacity and others quietly drain you
• How to recognise the difference between a holding environment and a power struggle
• Why real safety increases freedom rather than limiting it
If you have ever resisted structure, struggled with boundaries, or felt unsure whether you were being supported or subtly controlled, this episode will help you clarify what is actually happening.
If something here resonates and you are navigating a threshold that would benefit from clean, steady containment, you are welcome to explore a 75-minute Deep Dive.
Book your Deep Dive here
At certain stages of life, the strategies that once worked stop working.
You can’t push through. You can’t adrenaline your way into certainty. You can’t overthink your way into peace.
In this episode, Olivia explores why forcing clarity eventually collapses, and what mature self-trust actually requires instead.
Inside this conversation:
• Why speed can masquerade as confidence
• How the nervous system influences decision-making
• The difference between urgency and truth
• Why capacity must come before major decisions
• What to do when you genuinely don’t know
If you’re currently trying to force an answer in your relationship, work, or identity, this episode will help you understand what may actually be happening underneath.
If something here resonates and you’d like structured, intelligent support while navigating your own threshold, you’re welcome to explore a 75-minute Deep Dive.
The link is in the show notes.
There’s no rush.
Book your Deep Dive here
There are moments in adulthood when something shifts.
Not a bad week. Not temporary burnout. Not confusion you can solve with a planner.
A threshold.
In this first episode of Meat & Monogamy, Olivia explores what women actually need at these pivotal points in life, and why the instinct to speed up, force clarity, or make a decisive move often makes things worse.
This episode explores:
• What defines a true threshold
• Why forcing clarity stops working
• The difference between containment and control
• Why capacity matters more than immediate answers
• Why nourishment, not intensity, builds a life that can hold you
This podcast is for women who have already done a lot of inner work and are now navigating more complex, quieter decisions in adulthood.
If something in this episode resonates and you’re at a real threshold in your own life, you’re welcome to explore working with Olivia through a 75-minute Deep Dive.
There’s no rush.
Book a Deep Dive Here
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Hosted by Olivia Lara Owen, this is a space for women who have already done a lot of inner work, and are now navigating the quieter, more complex thresholds of life. The ones that don’t respond to…
Through solo episodes and occasional conversations, Olivia explores what it means to build a life that can actually hold you. One rooted in capacity rather than intensity, devotion rather than fantasy, and truth rather than performance.
This is not a podcast about fixing yourself.
It’s about feeding yourself.
And staying.
New episodes released in rhythm, not pressure.