Charlie Baber never knew he was gay. He was told that he was ”different” when he was younger, and the older kids teased him during recess. At his wedding, his father cried, later telling him, ”I knew you shouldn’t have married a woman.” He realized in Divinity School that there were Gay Christians who had the fruits of the spirit, and that compelled him to dive deeper into the scriptures. He became an ally to the gay community, without being able to give that to himself. The fear of being found out as he ministered to the youth in his church, of losing his family, and his kids, was too much. He tried to be who everyone thought he was until he experienced a traumatic dissociative fugue. Listen in for best quote of the podcast, ”Accepting who we are completely is at the heart of the Gospel.”