Mark Sandlin, is a Presbyterian minister that was run out of his church because of his vocal authentic voice lending itself to social justice issues including speaking out for equality and acceptance of the LGBTQIA community. He talks about the ”Clobber Verses,” how many churches have gotten their stance on homosexuality, ”wrong,” and why he had trepidation when he was told that he would be a Drum Major in high school! This episode is packed with light, love, laughter, and an honest look at the way to interpret scriptures.