09.22.2023 - By The Spinoff
Fresh from a poll that puts her second in Te Tai Hauāuru, Te Pāti Māori co-leader Debbie Ngarewa-Packer talks with Toby Manhire about her prospects, the party’s priorities, and how the party has changed from the days of Tariana Turia. (Conversation recorded as part of our day-long megapod on September 20.)
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