This week, Kevin talks to Melanie Steel, former People Director to the Cabinet Office and RSA, now the owner of her own people change and transformation consultancy - People Change Expertise.  Melanie talks about loving being a serial Interim so that she has the freedom to challenge and question. "You're one step removed and looking in". 

In part two, Kevin and Melanie discuss how to prioritise what to include in an HR strategy and what to omit.  "Start with the business context" says Melanie, "I would love for HR to be more integrated into the business - there is still a lot of them and us". Listen in for tips from someone who has influenced many top companies devise theirs. 

As with other episodes in this series, we recorded during the Coronavirus disruption. Melanie talks about how her current client, Arup have dealt with the crisis - "within a week we were making big decisions effecting the company's future remotely" and the importance of scenario planning in strategic HR at the moment.