Refactoring Podcast

Merchants of Complexity 🏯 — with DHH


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Today's guest is David Heinemeier Hansson!

David is the creator of Rails, co-founder & CTO of Basecamp, a NYT bestselling author, and professional racing driver for 10+ years!
In our chat, we explored many of David's strong opinions on software development, including today's excessive complexity in software and infrastructure, the role of AI, and the future of open source.
We also talked about his racing and how he approaches learning any topic from scratch.
Here is what we talked about:
(02:20) Introduction
(03:42) Merchants of Complexity
(13:19) Innovating the dev experience
(21:53) Complexity in small projects
(28:14) Incentives hurt open source
(32:49) Subscription vs ONCE
(35:24) David and AI
(47:27) Using AI as training wheels
(49:42) The art of learning
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