Erin and Cathy interview retired superintendent John Langton, the connecting factor between us! John reflects on his time in leadership and his support of early childhood. We get him to weigh-in on the staff dress debate and share about life in retirement!

Today's episode is on what to wear in education. Tune in to hear Erin and Cathy's denim discussion!

In this episode, Erin and Cathy reveal their secrets behind impactful interviews. Whether you’re a seasoned interviewer or just starting out we hope you take-away strategies to elevate your interviewing game.

Let's talk about summer as a building principal, ways to reset and plan for next year. Plus real-talk about cicadas and Cathy's hidden talent!

Get to know the Messy Business Podcasters Cathy & Erin and hear our journey that lead us to learn and love Early Childhood.

Welcome to Messy Business! A podcast with real-talk for early childhood educators. Our goal is to connect, inspire, laugh, reflect and problem solve all things early childhood. Join Cathy and Erin share their sometimes messy journey through Early Childhood Leadership.