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RILEYS AND GENTLEMEN!

Welcome back to Meta Station, where we are joined by a special guest - the wonderful Jo Garfein, host of The Dropship and our IRL friend after we spent an awesome weekend hanging out together at Unity Days. This is technically part 3 of 2 (yes, you heard that right); we recorded the Polis and Arkadia half of the podcast with Jo, then the Farm Station half after she left, but then had some major technical glitches and re-recorded with Jo again two nights later. So this is our second attempt at a conversation among the three of us, and in order to get it uploaded on time, it has not been edited very heavily; we apologize in advance for how often we say "um" PLEASE DON'T HATE US

Stand by for Part 2, coming up next!

0:00 - Intros: SECOND VERSE, SAME AS THE FIRST! Also Jo Garfein Is Here, Thanks Be to Riley

0:02 – Blue Butterflies and Creepy AI’s: Welcome to Ilian’s Hippie Commune

0:09 – It Took Less Than Ten Minutes For Jo to Bring Up the Fact That Claire Still Hasn’t Watched “Lost” Even Though She Promised She Would In Like July and She’s Very Sorry

0:15 – Trishanakru Is Descended From Burning Man: or, “Shout-Out to My Sister’s Ex-Fiance Troy”

0:20 – Darktavia is Rising and We’re All Very Gay For It

0:30 – “How to Care For Your Adopted Teenage Assassin: A Manual for New Parents” (Good Luck, Kane)

0:40 – I Mean, She’s No Riley, But We’re Really Feeling Echo (and Her Potential to Fuck Shit Up in Arkadia)

0:50 – CLAIRE IS THE HUMAN EQUIVALENT OF ALL-CAPS ABOUT THE KABBY SEX SCENE WHICH WILL PROBABLY SURPRISE EXACTLY ZERO OF OUR LISTENERS

0:54 – Jake Griffin, Forever In Our Hearts

1:00 – Oh Sweet Mother of God, Erin’s Sound Effects Are Back

1:08 – Claire Gets Real About Dead Parent Feels for a Second

1:11 – Jo and Riley: Co-Presidents of the Clarke Griffin Fan Club

1:13 – That Good Earth Cleavage

1:17 – PRINCESS MECHANIC IS BACK ON TOP! Riley Would Pick Them BOTH First

1:23 – Clarke/Raven/Bellamy = Jaha/Jake/Abby v2.0

1:26 – “We All Have Battle Scars”: Raven, Lindsey, and the Representation Conversation

1:30 – “I Don’t Like Mondays”: How Is Riley Going to Help Jasper?

1:38 – Harper and Bellamy Family Feels

1:40 – Like Season One All Over Again (This Time, With 100% More Riley!)

1:41 – Clarke’s “Live Together, Die Alone” Speech (DRINK, Jo Made Another “Lost” Reference!)

1:48 – Murphy’s Back Next Week! REUNITED WITH RILEY AFTER ALL THIS TIME! Also, Can Emori Join the Lady Tech Squad?

1:54 – What the Hell, Put Niylah on the Lady Tech Squad Too

1:56 – End of Part I, Get Ready For Part Two, ALL ABOUT RILEY

Welcome back to Meta Station, for the first of our weekly Season 4 recaps! We're crazypants excited about this episode and can't wait to yell about it with you! And don't forget to stop by the "Outtakes" playlist for bonus content from this episode; we talked for about 45 minutes about that Kane/Bellamy scene, and also did some giggling about Roan's dorky crown. You can find all that fun here -

https://soundcloud.com/meta-station/welcome-to-meta-meta-station-or-the-great-kellamy-debate-of-2017

https://soundcloud.com/meta-station/clairin-outtakes-dopey-lies-the-crown

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0:00 – *Octavia Blake voice* WE’RE BACK, BITCHES!

0:03 – The Jasper of It All: Dear Show, Please Don’t Fuck This Up

0:13 – Erin Gets Real About Mental Health

0:29 – Supergenius Raven + Bravenlarke Rising

0:33 – Hot Damn We Have a Lot of Jokes About Extended Warranties for Nuclear Power Plants

0:38 – We Would Like to Place an Order for One Backstory with a Side of Plot Agency for Harper

0:43 – Our Murphamy Hopes Were Dashed, But We’re Psyched About Memori

0:58 – The Polis A-Story: Or, Holy Shit It’s Great to Have the Whole Gang Back Together

1:11 – The Badass Bellarke Leader Squad Is Back on Top Where They Belong

1:25 – Clarke and the Flame: In Which the Show Does Justice to Lexa and the Reality of Grief

1:43 – Clarke & Kabby vs. Octavia & Jasper: Choosing Life vs. Choosing Death

1:49 – The Bellarke/Kabby Power Squad

1:56 – R.I.P. the Azgeda Guards Too Dumb to Spot the Ol’ Live-Person-in-a-Body-Bag Trick

1:59 – HOT TAKE: Roan Is the Lincoln of Azgeda

2:11 – Claire Hates Saying “Heavy Lies the Crown” Because Misquoting Shakespeare Makes Her Stabby; Also, See You Next Week With A SPECIAL GUEST????

Welcome to Meta Meta Station, where Erin and Claire having an exceptionally rare moment of strong disagreement about how to interpret that Kane and Bellamy scene from the end of 401 turned into one of our favorite-ever conversations, where we meta about meta and unpack all the different ways we interpret story to figure out why one of us liked it and one of us disliked it. SPOILER ALERT: it turned out to have almost nothing to do with which one of the two is our most fave.

We had some thoughts about Roan's crown in the Season 4 premiere. And by "thoughts" we mean "cackling with hysterical laughter."

Welcome back to Meta Station! We’re back from the magnificently delirious weekend of nerd fun which was Unity Days 2017, and we’re here to tell you all about it! Joining us are special guests Brittany Rae and Robyn Jeffrey (formerly of The Giantist, now co-hosts of the Afictionados podcast network) and Sam Coley of TellTaleTV, who – along with The Dropship’s Jo Garfein – were our fellow panelists for the Unity Days Friday night Meta Panel, where we answered fan-submitted questions and meta prompts about the show. For those of you who missed the fun live, we’ll recap our weekend experience, from the best questions we got at the panel to our favorite cast member encounters to the most exciting season 4 tidbits we picked up along the way. We also got way too many meta questions submitted to answer live at the panel, so we’re recreating the magic here and answering a few more of our favorites on air that we weren’t able to get to at Unity Days, discussing everything from Hogwarts to My Little Ponies. And stay tuned at the end of the podcast to hear our post-Unity Days conversation with Caitlin Walsh and Kelsey Juntwait of Talk Nerdy With Us, recorded in our hotel room right after the con ended, with more fun stories about cast encounters and nerdy fun. Thanks so much to Leana Santos, Miah Bannerman, the whole staff and volunteers of Unity Days, and of course the amazing cast of “The 100” for a totally amazing weekend we will never forget! We’re even more hyped for S4 than we were before!

Kabby sex! Bellarke snuggles! Dark Octavia! Power vacuum in in Polis! Drones chasing Raven! Radiation! Explosions! Literal, actual, mountains of corpses! There was a LOT to unpack in the Season 4 trailer, and we are HELLA FUCKING PSYCHED about the direction the show seems to be headed in. So like .... of course we had two hours' worth of things to say about it.

Two vital disclaimers about the following podcast:

1) We wanted to get our s4 predictions up the day the trailer aired, so this was a quick and dirty version. We have not edited at all. Like, at ALL. So try not to think of it like a nice, polished, cleaned-up podcast and more like you’re eavesdropping on a Claire and Erin phone call – which begins (as they all do) with hysterical giggling, and ends (as they all do) with Erin’s husband telling us to get off the phone because we’ve been talking for way too long. It is rambly and interrupty and there is background noise and coughing and it does not sound fancy or professional in ANY WAY, so just know that going into it. We usually spend many, many hours on cleanup to whittle down 4 hours of rambling into a 2-hour podcast, but now you get to hear how we actually talk.

2)Today Erin discovered how to use our recording software’s sound effects feature. For this, we apologize in advance.

Welcome back to Meta Station for the first of our “Who Are We Kidding Ourselves We Can’t Possibly Cover Two Episodes at Once, Let’s Just Go Back To Giving Each of Them Two Hours As the Good Lord Intended” podcasts. Erin says “hegemonic” but also refers to the Grounders as “Juggalo Murder Clowns”, we finally find something nice to say about Finn, and we both get a little real about our own families while crying over the Blakes. This one is a RIDE, y’all.

0:00 – INTRODUCTION! Claire’s 35 Now and Erin Has Been Chasing a Spider For Four Hours

0:02 – “I’ve Abandoned All Pretense of Journalistic Integrity”: In Which We Discuss the Most Charitable, and the Least Charitable, Interpretations of Finn’s Behavior In This Episode

0:11 – Finn/Raven and Bellamy/Octavia Parallels (NOT IN A GROSS WAY, This Podcast Is a Blakecest-Free Zone)

0:22 – Raven and Clarke Subvert The Love Triangle Trope

0:30 – “Use Your Words, Lincoln”

0:40 – From John Locke to Juggalos: Season One’s Problematic Grounder World-Building

1:01 – A Lengthy Digression In Which We Yell About Tropes and Racism

1:14 – Aurora Blake and The Dark Underbelly of Ark Society

1:20 – Like Mother, Like Son: Aurora and Bellamy’s Parenting Techniques

1:35 – Bellamy, Your Trust Issues With Grownups Are Showing

1:38 – The Moment Where Both Clarke, and Erin, Begin to Come Around on Big Brother Bellamy

1:44 – The Terrible, Horrible, No-Good, Very Bad Blake Fight

1:54 – Same Parents, Different Childhood: Bellamy and Octavia Can’t Really See Each Other

2:01 – Tragedies of Good Intentions Make Very Good Television

2:07 – The Stealth Feminism of This Show’s Familial and Platonic Relationships

2:11 – Jasper’s Performative Masculinity: Or, Erin Solves Our “Linctavia vs. Jactavia” Timeline Problem

Erin and Claire take a break from discussing Finn to unpack the etymology of the phrase "compliment sandwich."

Welcome back to Meta Station! After a not-entirely-planned hiatus due to an avalanche of Life Stuff for both of us, we’re back with the second half of our 104/105 podcast! LET’S HAVE SOME FEELS ABOUT THE CULLING, MY DUDES!

It turns out that the answer to “Are Claire and Erin, in fact, capable of covering an entire episode in just over an hour?” is “Yes, if it is preceded by five hours of watching two episodes back-to-back and then discussing another episode and it is very late and we are tired and punchy and our brains are mostly dead.” Don’t worry, I edited out all the parts where one of us just sort of . . . . trailed off into nowhere. THERE WERE A LOT.

0:00 - Nope, No Intro, Just STRAIGHT Into the Jake Flailing

0:08 – So We're All Agreed That the Culling Storyline Is the Best Thing This Show Has Ever Done, Yes?

0:12 – The Tragedy of the Culling Is That Everyone To Blame Was Just Trying To Save Someone Else

0:16 – It's Time For Another Installment of "Why Is Jaha the Worst?"

0:17 – "He's the Jafar of the Ark": Kane, Jaha, and the One Line of Dialogue That Makes Claire Want to Scream

0:23 - Time For Some Ark/Ground Leadership Parallels!

0:27 - KABBY IS RISING!

0:29 - Let's Crash Down From the Ark Storyline to the Earth Storyline With Our Girl Raven, Who Instantly Makes Everything 100000% Better In Every Way

0:40 - Strap In, For It Is Time To Scream About the Love Triangle and Finn Collins' Total Absence of Narrative Purpose

0:55 - Erin Sings the Song and Claire Has Some Questions For the Writers

0:59 – Hey, Remember When the Show Was Trying to Make Jactavia Happen?

1:06 - . . . And Then We Trail Off To a Very Abrupt and Exhausted End I DON'T THINK THIS TWO-AT-A-TIME PLAN IS WORKING, WE'RE GOING BACK TO ONE AT A TIME FROM NOW ON

Welcome back, fam! We ended up with so much to say about 104 and 105 that we split this podcast into two sections, one for each episode, to keep from making our heads explode with editing craziness. So you’ll notice that this one kind of ends abruptly without an outro, and the next one will start right in without an intro, but like I TRUST THAT WE’LL ALL GET THROUGH THIS TOGETHER. Anyway, please join us for the rollercoaster ride of “Murphy’s Law,” for our money the first truly great episode of this show. Charlotte! Nygel! Murphy! Vera! Raven! Flarke sex! The legacy of Wells! Unexamined racism and misogyny! An intro we recorded after we’d been talking for four hours and were beginning to absolutely lose our damn minds! STRAP IN KIDDOS, THIS EPISODE’S A RIDE

0:00 – I Can’t EVEN Describe to You How Cracked-Out This Intro Is

0:02 – Today on “Tumblr Asks with Erin”: “Is Wells’ Death Racist?”

0:12 – Wells’ Legacy: Forcing the Camp to Get Its Shit Together

0:19 – Scapegoats and Cassandras: The Tragedy of John Murphy (With Sidelines Into the Rise of Dad!Bellamy, the Death of Charlotte, and the Beginnings of Societal Cohesion)

0:52 – Abby’s Wristbands as Ark/Earth Connective Plot Thread

0:56 – Emotional Labor, Immature Men, and Clarke’s Sex Amnesia: Time for Another Installment of “How Do You Solve a Problem Like Finn Collins?” (SONG INCLUDED!)

1:21 – Nygel, Raven/Abby/Kane Character Development, and the Seedy Underbelly of Ark Society

1:28 – Marcus Kane Is Still His Mother’s Son