Michael Bartlett, Lead Pastor of Collective Church, sits down with host Joy Dunning to explore how vulnerability and authenticity are reshaping church leadership. Michael opens up about his journey from a non-religious upbringing to pastoral ministry, his transformative experience at Crucible, and the role of emotional honesty, anger, and community in spiritual growth. Together, they unpack how healing, faith, and action intersect to redefine self-worth and success in ministry.

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